Alba can also be told, in easy, bite sized and dramatic & eye catching examples how a seemingly prosperous nation was reduced to a 'slum' where gang lords control swathes of territory as the oil underneath their feet are being siphoned off and they cannot sell it to whom they want without navy seals boarding the tanker.

Perhaps?

@tycho and @muriel have spun this upside down. Is it intentional to try and hide the real issue of fund misuse, I don't know. Maybe they speak for some people, whom they don't want criticized. We've seen this behaviour with jubilee sycophants (I'm not saying jubilee built the palace). Same jubilee sycophants are so quiet on this. If it were baba's case, you'd be seeing the comments and the attacks!!! Enyewe ma-mido-class is an amazing lot!!

I say this because I always respect @tycho to speak out without prejudice, but this time round to focus on Kibera to argue and divert the real issue @alba is trying to point out! @alba is just using one or two examples to emphasize the fact that funds would have been used more wisely in something else than building a palace for a retired president.

@tycho is that so hard to see @alba's point? Please leave kibera and slums alone.

I speak for the wananchi, Kenyan people. This thread is not about me. I have my own goals. You have your own. Everybody does. And we have the forces behind all us, and we have to survive the best way we can.

But we have elected leaders, who are supposed to come up with policies and implement them for service delivery. Please don't reply and say I should not wait for the leaders to change my country, please let's not go along that line.
Because you see me condemning misuse of funds to build a non-priority palace for a retiring president. Yet I believe I play role as a good Kenyan citizen. I pay tax, direct and indirect through fuel levies, consumables and also CESS for my farm produce.

But do I feel the garment use my hard earned taxes properly? The answer is no.

Another thread hijacked....

Oh My ! I do not think there is a person on this forum who enjoys exposing his ignorance than Tycho



Where did you pull that bogus definition from ? The least you can do is pick up a dictionary or at least go to an online dictionary where you will find the word slum defined as follows: thickly populated, run-down, squalid part of a city, inhabited by poor people.

Your problem is that you simply make things up as you go. None of what you say is based in reality.

If a slum is where people who are politically marginalized live then based on your twisted logic, many Kikuyus in central province lived in a slum given that Moi politically marginalized them. And since Luos were politically marginalized by Kenyatta, then based on your sorry logic, all Luos in Nyanza lived in a slum during the Kenyatta era. That includes the rich ones. Now do you see how nonsensical your definition is ? I am not sure why you are so eager to expose your ignorance to Wazuans.




Do you actually think everyone who lives in a slum is propertyless or do you just like posting gibberish ?
And even if they do not have property, don't you think they fear for their lives due to crime. It is the duty of police to protect people from crime regardless of whether they have property.
And lack of security hinders economic development. I am sure you recently read how traders in Kayole have to spend extra money securing their business.



This is such nonsense. As I have said above, everyone even poor people have property and even those who do not deserve to be protected from gangstars.



First off, extreme poverty does not mean people live in slums. Most US cities provide public housing and financial assistance for poor people. So the notion that the US encourages slums is just bogus. Public housing in the US does not equal slums. Sorry but you will have to try harder.

The occupy wall street movement was not about slums. Do you even read anything ? This movement introduced the concept of the 1% richest people versus the 99% who struggle. Are you suggesting that 99% of Americans are poor.

This movement was against corporate greed. And you still haven't explained how the US encourages slums. If they do then how come the US does not have slums everywhere ?



Your pseudo-intellectual mambo jambo is not fooling anyone into thinking you are intelligent. You are still dodging the basic question which is : Is the government justified in spending 500m building a palace that no one lives in, then spending hundreds of thousands maintaining it and providing security ?

Yes or NO

Just answer this basic question instead of dodging the questions with an attempt at flowery words that look more like thorns.

Even if you think governments should not protect people who live in slums, do you still think the money is better spent building a home for Kibaki ?



I am not representing anyone. I am simply expressing an opinion. One that is shared by many Kenyans who think that wasting tax payer money on such a grandiose house that no one lives in is immoral, wrong and brain-dead.