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KERUJAMES
#221 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 11:54:42 AM
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As usual the US is exercising its high handedness. I'm sure Putin has done his cost benefit analysis by now and knows too well how to deal with Obama.
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Swenani
#222 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:02:59 PM
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Muriel
#223 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:31:40 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Russian troops backed by unarmed volunteers stormed Ukraine's naval headquarters in the Crimean port of Sevastopol on Wednesday and raised the Russian flag, as Moscow tightened its control of the Black Sea peninsula. The dramatic seizure came as Russia and the West dug in for a long confrontation over Moscow's annexation of Crimea, with the United States and Europe groping for ways to increase pressure on a defiant Russian President Vladimir Putin.



"Russian forces storm Ukraine naval headquarters in Crimea".


"This morning they stormed the compound. They cut the gates open, but I heard no shooting," said Oleksander Balanyuk, a captain in the navy, walking out of the compound in his uniform and carrying his belongings."


Wazuans have roasted local journalists for much less.
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Kratos
#224 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 4:36:27 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Russian troops backed by unarmed volunteers stormed Ukraine's naval headquarters in the Crimean port of Sevastopol on Wednesday and raised the Russian flag, as Moscow tightened its control of the Black Sea peninsula. The dramatic seizure came as Russia and the West dug in for a long confrontation over Moscow's annexation of Crimea, with the United States and Europe groping for ways to increase pressure on a defiant Russian President Vladimir Putin.


Is Annexation the correct word in this instance or is it closer to amalgamation? According to Britannica
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annexation, a formal act whereby a state proclaims its sovereignty over territory hitherto outside its domain.Annexation is frequently preceded by conquest and military occupation of the conquered territory.

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conquest, in international law, the acquisition of territory through force, especially by a victorious state in a war at the expense of a defeated state. An effective conquest takes place when physical appropriation of territory (annexation) is followed by “subjugation” (i.e., the legal process of transferring title).



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Obi 1 Kanobi
#225 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:12:05 PM
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Not sure if this has been posted here.

Putin has some level of legitimacy on this issue, apparently Crimea was a part of Russia and was gifted to Ukraine some 60 years ago. So its more of getting back whats yours.
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Njung'e
#226 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:53:18 PM
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To much hypocrisy,contradiction and double standards from the West.No wonder smaller countries are finding it easy this days to show them the middle finger without second thoughts.
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Mtu Biz
#227 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:06:40 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
To much hypocrisy,contradiction and double standards from the West.No wonder smaller countries are finding it easy this days to show them the middle finger without second thoughts.


smile

Interesting coming from you.

I my memory serves me right you have come full circle.
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poundfoolish
#228 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:10:36 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted here.

Putin has some level of legitimacy on this issue, apparently Crimea was a part of Russia and was gifted to Ukraine some 60 years ago. So its more of getting back whats yours.


Before it was Russian it was Tartan who were mercilessy dealt with by Stalin and the Russian populace sent there.. So if you go back further down into modern history WW2.. it would be a country on its own or Ukrainian..
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Njung'e
#229 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:26:18 PM
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
To much hypocrisy,contradiction and double standards from the West.No wonder smaller countries are finding it easy this days to show them the middle finger without second thoughts.


smile

Interesting coming from you.

I my memory serves me right you have come full circle.


Sad Why?....Sad ...I have never been pro-west as i hate hypocrisy with a passion.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Mtu Biz
#230 Posted : Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:41:46 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
To much hypocrisy,contradiction and double standards from the West.No wonder smaller countries are finding it easy this days to show them the middle finger without second thoughts.


smile

Interesting coming from you.

I my memory serves me right you have come full circle.


Sad Why?....Sad ...I have never been pro-west as i hate hypocrisy with a passion.


I recall you applauding the demise of Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi at the hands of the west.

Kweli rongo?

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