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Rank: Member Joined: 1/25/2007 Posts: 39
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hi wazuans,
can you please recommend a good reliable trustworthy property lawyer & their contacts preferably the ones you represent you in your land/property deals. also the average fees they charge for their services. this info. will be highly appreciated.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/16/2010 Posts: 217 Location: Nairobi
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slimboss wrote:hi wazuans,
can you please recommend a good reliable trustworthy property lawyer & their contacts preferably the ones you represent you in your land/property deals. also the average fees they charge for their services. this info. will be highly appreciated. You could check with J.W WAMBUA & COMPANY ,they are located at commerce hse sixth floor. They are very famous for Land conveyancing matters. properties For Sale By Owner
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Try Sichangi and Co Advocates Hill Plaza building Upper hill. Very professional and efficient. @ Signature I am afraid the law firm you propose has had a major professional mishaps in a case I know. The problem was ocassioned professional negligence on the part of the law firm. The clients lost big time and the ripple effect was phenomenal. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/3/2010 Posts: 96
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Would also recommend Sichangi...have worked with them on one transaction and they were a very professional bunch, keeping you upto date on all the steps of the transaction...albeit they are a bit expensive but you get value for money...
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/10/2010 Posts: 23 Location: US
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How much do Sichangi and Co Advocates charge? Can anyone also recommend property lawyers in Mombasa?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/25/2007 Posts: 39
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@papa investor its more expensive doing it my self ESP. am a novice so please do tell their average charges for their services & do u have their email address.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/3/2010 Posts: 96
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Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/10/2010 Posts: 23 Location: US
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Wazuans! Any reliable property lawyer in mombasa?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,905
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seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? Tafadhali nichanueni kabla sijagongwa.  The fellows have even put travelling and printing expenses amounting to over 20k. Stamp duty is 72k. Legal fees 27k. Plus VAT na vitu zingine ndogo ndogo. They must think I am a quail! Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? Tafadhali nichanueni kabla sijagongwa. The fellows have even put travelling and printing expenses amounting to over 20k. Stamp duty is 72k. Legal fees 27k. Plus VAT na vitu zingine ndogo ndogo. They must think I am a quail! Notwithstanding the fact that the land, the seller, myself and all relevant offices are to be found within 15km radius of the lawyers office. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? Tafadhali nichanueni kabla sijagongwa. The fellows have even put travelling and printing expenses amounting to over 20k. Stamp duty is 72k. Legal fees 27k. Plus VAT na vitu zingine ndogo ndogo. They must think I am a quail!  Lord, thank you!
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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seppuku wrote:seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? Tafadhali nichanueni kabla sijagongwa. The fellows have even put travelling and printing expenses amounting to over 20k. Stamp duty is 72k. Legal fees 27k. Plus VAT na vitu zingine ndogo ndogo. They must think I am a quail! Notwithstanding the fact that the land, the seller, myself and all relevant offices are to be found within 15km radius of the lawyers office. Can someone do the whole of this process alone? Ok, with the land owner and witnesses. I just hate the idea of property lawyers. I always want to keep only necessary contact with lawyers. So if it is possible and not against the law, can someone tell me how to do it?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? By the way, these figures you talk about, they are exclusive of the stamp duty? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? By the way, these figures you talk about, they are exclusive of the stamp duty? I would assume stamp duty is inclusive. Sichangi once charged me around 76k for a property valued at around 8.5m exclusive of stamp duty Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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Rollins wrote:seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? By the way, these figures you talk about, they are exclusive of the stamp duty? I would assume stamp duty is inclusive. Sichangi once charged me around 76k for a property valued at around 8.5m exclusive of stamp duty And stamp duty is a government tax? Not something you could negotiate? Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/11/2010 Posts: 918
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seppuku wrote:Rollins wrote:seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? By the way, these figures you talk about, they are exclusive of the stamp duty? I would assume stamp duty is inclusive. Sichangi once charged me around 76k for a property valued at around 8.5m exclusive of stamp duty And stamp duty is a government tax? Not something you could negotiate? By the way the reason I ask is because quoting from this blog: Quote:Next is the payment of the Stamp Duty tax. The fees are 2% or 4% of the Value of the land depending on whether the land is within or outside the Local Municipality. The Value of the land used to calculate the stamp duty is given by the government valuer which may not necessarily be the same as the purchase value. Stamp duty is paid by depositing the amount in an account provided by the Land’s registry office. It is mandatory to pay the stamp duty using the above mode. My candidate lawyer has used 4%. Now I want to understand why. The land is within NBI county. Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/23/2011 Posts: 503
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seppuku wrote:seppuku wrote:Rollins wrote:seppuku wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:seppuku wrote:Nandwa wrote:Papa Investor wrote:Charges are negotiable...they will start by giving you the charges per the advocate act which has the fees as a % of the property being transacted but you can always negotiate to a reasonable amount...about 40-50k. They have a website but you can also email irenenjenga@sichangi.com Very true. I know someone who 2months ago, paid them 30k for property bought for almost 3m. Negotiate. And why is one charging me KES 126,000 for property worth a little under 2m? Should I run for the hills? 2m on the outside is 50k but even that you have been conned. 25-30k max. wapi @maka atupatie mawaidha? By the way, these figures you talk about, they are exclusive of the stamp duty? I would assume stamp duty is inclusive. Sichangi once charged me around 76k for a property valued at around 8.5m exclusive of stamp duty And stamp duty is a government tax? Not something you could negotiate? By the way the reason I ask is because quoting from this blog: Quote:Next is the payment of the Stamp Duty tax. The fees are 2% or 4% of the Value of the land depending on whether the land is within or outside the Local Municipality. The Value of the land used to calculate the stamp duty is given by the government valuer which may not necessarily be the same as the purchase value. Stamp duty is paid by depositing the amount in an account provided by the Land’s registry office. It is mandatory to pay the stamp duty using the above mode. My candidate lawyer has used 4%. Now I want to understand why. The land is within NBI county. The answer is right there. Your land is within the Municipality. Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
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