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Kericho-Nyakach border crashes
jaggernaut
#21 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:31:09 PM
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mawinder wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
What is now happening here? What are they fighting over? Anybody on the ground?

It's all about cattle rustling. And it's the kaleos who are always the culprits - the luo never steal from kaleos. In the current case the raiders came from Kericho. I understand that one suspected kaleo rustler was lynched by nyakach residents and the kaleos retaliated by killing several luos, burning their village and sugarcane plantations. And just the other day the Nyakach MP's parents were killed and the blame was placed on cattle rustlers.
Iam sorry to say this but it's always a problem when you have kaleos as your neighbours. I have some kin in Molo and Njoro and life has been unbearable since kaleos were settled in the Mau and became their neighbours. My kin can no longer keep livestock due to theft, not to mention the 'marauding house-burning and cattle stealing' warriors at every election (except 2013).

Blanket condemnation of a whole community?You are lucky there are no Kaleos in wazua.How did your kin land in Molo yet it is common knowledge Molo is Kaleoland?


The kin were civil servants (now retired) who worked in the area for 30yrs. They bought the land in the 1970s.
And from history Nakuru district is historically Maasai land, the kipsigis occupied the areas west of the Mau forest (i.e the current kericho district) from Londiani to sotik/bomet, (with their ancestral land being belgut, buret and sot) while the hunter gatherers, the dorobo were found in the mau forest. The east of the mau forest was occupied by the maasai.
Angelica _ann
#22 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:38:45 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
What is now happening here? What are they fighting over? Anybody on the ground?

It's all about cattle rustling. And it's the kaleos who are always the culprits - the luo never steal from kaleos. In the current case the raiders came from Kericho. I understand that one suspected kaleo rustler was lynched by nyakach residents and the kaleos retaliated by killing several luos, burning their village and sugarcane plantations. And just the other day the Nyakach MP's parents were killed and the blame was placed on cattle rustlers.
Iam sorry to say this but it's always a problem when you have kaleos as your neighbours. I have some kin in Molo and Njoro and life has been unbearable since kaleos were settled in the Mau and became their neighbours. My kin can no longer keep livestock due to theft, not to mention the 'marauding house-burning and cattle stealing' warriors at every election (except 2013).

Blanket condemnation of a whole community?You are lucky there are no Kaleos in wazua.How did your kin land in Molo yet it is common knowledge Molo is Kaleoland?


The kin were civil servants (now retired) who worked in the area for 30yrs. They bought the land in the 1970s.
And from history Nakuru district is historically Maasai land, the kipsigis occupied the areas west of the Mau forest (i.e the current kericho district) from Londiani to sotik/bomet, (with their ancestral land being belgut, buret and sot) while the hunter gatherers, the dorobo were found in the mau forest. The east of the mau forest was occupied by the maasai.


So how did they get there in millions?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Wainadi
#23 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:43:56 PM
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Leaders from Kisumu and Kericho are now claiming that politicians from the Rift Valley are behind attacks that left six people dead at the weekend.

More than 20 houses were torched and 100 families displaced following the clashes that took place in broad daylight.

(READ: Violence breaks out in Nyakach)

Nyakach MP Aduma Owuor on Monday called for investigations into claims that senior politicians funded and organised the attacks.

“We cannot live in fear because a few individuals want our communities to be at loggerheads.

“Let the police move fast and quell the tension in the area,” he said.

Kisumu Deputy Governor Ruth Odinga took the national government to task over the conflict saying:

“We want the Inspector-General of Police to take the matter seriously because the laxity witnessed among the police will make the situation worse.”

A family moving from Cherwa in Nyakach after their houses was torched. Photo/TOM OTIENO
Kericho Senator Charles Keter however said leaders cannot end the hostilities by shifting blame.

“We want immediate action to be taken as the violence has interrupted business that has been going on between the two counties,” he said.

Youth in Nyakach argue with a police office at the border of Nyakach and Nandi on March 9, 2014.
Uneasy calm has since returned to the area following the deployment of police from the Anti-Stock-Theft and General Service Unit. The Kenya Red Cross has also put up camps hosting the displaced families.

A police officer walks away from armed youth in Nyakach on March 9, 2014.
Kisumu County Commissioner Lorna Odero said she is in talks with her Kericho counterpart Rashid Mohammed to boost security.

Police officers deployed to the border of Nyakach and Nandi on March 9, 2014.
“We are calling for peace and security to prevail in the two counties. We are working towards ending the cases of cattle theft as soon as possible as we seek to protect the lives and property of Kenyans,” she said.

Police officers remove stones that were used by youths at Onyuongo to barricade the road on March 9, 2014.
Bornes Magut, a resident of Kapsitik Village in Kericho West District said people from her village and the neighbouring ones had been attacked.

Six people died in the clashes at the border of Nyakach and Nandi at the weekend. Photo/TOM OTIENO
According to her, many young men are now afraid of grazing their livestock in open fields.

“Our sons have been accused of being cattle thieves. Just recently, a young neighbor was attacked at his home and hacked to death in the middle of the night as I heard but I could do nothing to assist him,” she said.

Reported by Elvis Ondieki, Moses Odhiambo and Timothy Kemei
Its all good.
Wainadi
#24 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:45:02 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
mawinder wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
washiku wrote:
What is now happening here? What are they fighting over? Anybody on the ground?

It's all about cattle rustling. And it's the kaleos who are always the culprits - the luo never steal from kaleos. In the current case the raiders came from Kericho. I understand that one suspected kaleo rustler was lynched by nyakach residents and the kaleos retaliated by killing several luos, burning their village and sugarcane plantations. And just the other day the Nyakach MP's parents were killed and the blame was placed on cattle rustlers.
Iam sorry to say this but it's always a problem when you have kaleos as your neighbours. I have some kin in Molo and Njoro and life has been unbearable since kaleos were settled in the Mau and became their neighbours. My kin can no longer keep livestock due to theft, not to mention the 'marauding house-burning and cattle stealing' warriors at every election (except 2013).

Blanket condemnation of a whole community?You are lucky there are no Kaleos in wazua.How did your kin land in Molo yet it is common knowledge Molo is Kaleoland?


The kin were civil servants (now retired) who worked in the area for 30yrs. They bought the land in the 1970s.
And from history Nakuru district is historically Maasai land, the kipsigis occupied the areas west of the Mau forest (i.e the current kericho district) from Londiani to sotik/bomet, (with their ancestral land being belgut, buret and sot) while the hunter gatherers, the dorobo were found in the mau forest. The east of the mau forest was occupied by the maasai.


So how did they get there in millions?

The same way Luo's are a majority in Migori county.
Its all good.
Wainadi
#25 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:47:33 PM
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Wainadi wrote:
Leaders from Kisumu and Kericho are now claiming that politicians from the Rift Valley are behind attacks that left six people dead at the weekend.

More than 20 houses were torched and 100 families displaced following the clashes that took place in broad daylight.

(READ: Violence breaks out in Nyakach)

Nyakach MP Aduma Owuor on Monday called for investigations into claims that senior politicians funded and organised the attacks.

“We cannot live in fear because a few individuals want our communities to be at loggerheads.

“Let the police move fast and quell the tension in the area,” he said.

Kisumu Deputy Governor Ruth Odinga took the national government to task over the conflict saying:

“We want the Inspector-General of Police to take the matter seriously because the laxity witnessed among the police will make the situation worse.”

A family moving from Cherwa in Nyakach after their houses was torched. Photo/TOM OTIENO
Kericho Senator Charles Keter however said leaders cannot end the hostilities by shifting blame.

“We want immediate action to be taken as the violence has interrupted business that has been going on between the two counties,” he said.

Youth in Nyakach argue with a police office at the border of Nyakach and Nandi on March 9, 2014.
Uneasy calm has since returned to the area following the deployment of police from the Anti-Stock-Theft and General Service Unit. The Kenya Red Cross has also put up camps hosting the displaced families.

A police officer walks away from armed youth in Nyakach on March 9, 2014.
Kisumu County Commissioner Lorna Odero said she is in talks with her Kericho counterpart Rashid Mohammed to boost security.

Police officers deployed to the border of Nyakach and Nandi on March 9, 2014.
“We are calling for peace and security to prevail in the two counties. We are working towards ending the cases of cattle theft as soon as possible as we seek to protect the lives and property of Kenyans,” she said.

Police officers remove stones that were used by youths at Onyuongo to barricade the road on March 9, 2014.
Bornes Magut, a resident of Kapsitik Village in Kericho West District said people from her village and the neighbouring ones had been attacked.

Six people died in the clashes at the border of Nyakach and Nandi at the weekend. Photo/TOM OTIENO
According to her, many young men are now afraid of grazing their livestock in open fields.

“Our sons have been accused of being cattle thieves. Just recently, a young neighbor was attacked at his home and hacked to death in the middle of the night as I heard but I could do nothing to assist him,” she said.

Reported by Elvis Ondieki, Moses Odhiambo and Timothy Kemei

Let the blame game continue, its time they addressed issues via dialogue not trading accusations.
Its all good.
wanyee
#26 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:31:03 PM
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Its about time they brand all livestock with RFid Tags, set up a court in the vicinity and let individuals pay not entire communities. They demarcate the land and issue titles end the shameful habit once and for all
Tebes
#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:46:46 PM
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wanyee wrote:
Its about time they brand all livestock with RFid Tags, set up a court in the vicinity and let individuals pay not entire communities. They demarcate the land and issue titles end the shameful habit once and for all



These stolen livestock never live to see the next day. They are slaughtered overnight and there are collaborators from both sides of the communities.
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wanyee
#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:53:53 PM
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Tebes wrote:
wanyee wrote:
Its about time they brand all livestock with RFid Tags, set up a court in the vicinity and let individuals pay not entire communities. They demarcate the land and issue titles end the shameful habit once and for all



These stolen livestock never live to see the next day. They are slaughtered overnight and there are collaborators from both sides of the communities.

Then watume Flying Squad ..they set up base there ..ala Makuyu some years back..they deal with the Kingpins...but nowadays of evil societies and goat rights...mambo ngumu
Swenani
#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:56:19 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
Its that season when cows are stolen so as to pay "for gals"

Justification for the clashes or what now?


Not a justification but a cause
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Angelica _ann
#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:51:36 PM
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