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20% Pay cut for Uhuruto...
murchr
#61 Posted : Sunday, March 09, 2014 10:08:06 PM
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700 000 civil servants ni wengi sana...eish.
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D32
#62 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 6:57:00 AM
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Besides adjusting salaries, more should be done regarding the bloat. The Gov machinery needs to be very efficient, but that will not happen without an overhaul / study / audit of every organ in every sphere of the Gov. Once all processes have been defined, the next question that needs to be answered is "how can the processes be executed in the most efficient manner?"

An example: Along Mombasa Rd, have seen some people (not sure if they are permanent or casual workers), at least 20 of them, with slashers, trimming grass on uneven grounds the middle of the road or at the roads-sides. Is that the best way of doing such work? An alternative could be getting just two workers with stick trimmers and have them just walk through the grass, and the job will be done quickly and efficiently.

Basically, after all processes have been identified, simply have them executed in the most effective manner.

The reforms will obviously result with a good number of jobless individuals. What do you do with healthy adults with no jobs? It's not only about cutting costs, but it's also about multiplying income or increasing trade & exports. Train the jobless with skills for new or existing industries. Medically, we are understaffed, maybe under-qualified, and definitely, under-equipped. Agriculturally, we are under-producing (See how much California is producing http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/statistics/ ). In scientific and Technological R&D, we are almost nowhere on radar, and this is due to Ke's educational system, more specifically, tertiary education, thus the public educational system must be part of the overhaul. Education is perhaps the most important for obvious reasons.
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washiku
#63 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 8:28:30 AM
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Unfortunately these issues may never get a logical discussion due to the fact that politics will fast kick in and it will be them against us debacle. I hope all sides of the political divide will be at KICC today. After all its a debate on a National issue and all stakeholders ought to participate for the National good.
washiku
#64 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 11:48:24 AM
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Ouru sounds very honest in this debate. I hope he now takes action so that as we discuss the Wage Bill, we shall have the other wastages cut down.
dunkang
#65 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:00:50 PM
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maka
#66 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:04:29 PM
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washiku wrote:
Ouru sounds very honest in this debate. I hope he now takes action so that as we discuss the Wage Bill, we shall have the other wastages cut down.

They should start with themselves,the cars the foreign trips the,the other day Ruto went to I believe Kinsasha with a chartered Embraer that only had 28 people,a 96 sitter plane...wastage galore
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Euge
#67 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:12:37 PM
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Eh?
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
Ouru sounds very honest in this debate. I hope he now takes action so that as we discuss the Wage Bill, we shall have the other wastages cut down.

They should start with themselves,the cars the foreign trips the,the other day Ruto went to I believe Kinsasha with a chartered Embraer that only had 28 people,a 96 sitter plane...wastage galore


So why wouldn't he take a commercial flight and travel business class? Shame!
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tycho
#68 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:18:31 PM
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Wage cuts enforced by government may actually raise costs in the mid and long terms because governments have less control over how markets work especially in our globalized context.

The key to a lower wage bill would involve releasing day to day politics to market forces. For example, political parties should fund themselves from the profits they make out of selling real products to the people. Even lawmaking can be structured in a market friendly way so that even Mp's can pay themselves while the citizens also earn from these laws.
mkonomtupu
#69 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:38:59 PM
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If Uhuru and ruto were running a listed company and I was shareholder I would tell the broker to lighten.

Instead of increasing shareholder value, they have front-loaded the balance sheet with dubious debts, they have made little effort to increase exports and the value of the exports, they are poor in developing policy initiatives and in the execution of policy(laptops).

The wage bill is best dealt with by increasing the size of the GDP same thing Mwiraria did in 2004. You do that by making the Kenya market an attractive destination for investments.

This pay cut/wage bill debate is pure propaganda hogwash kind of thing Hitler said
β€œThe receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
Tebes
#70 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2014 12:42:31 PM
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dunkang wrote:



No big deal, they will recover the same in a stroke of a pen. Cost of doing business may however rise considerably....
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