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Russia Going to War with US over Ukraine?
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#41 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:30:06 PM
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Ukraine has just ordered total mobilisation of all of its military assets, equal to America's defcon 1.(Roosevelt ordered defcon 1 after Pearl Harbour).
These leaders need to get sober ama hii itakuwa all out war
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#42 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:34:26 PM
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I wonder who Kenya would back if the two blocs went to war
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#43 Posted : Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:52:43 PM
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The region's Prime Minister Sergey Aksyonov announced the creation of Crimea's Navy forces and appointed Berezovsky its head.

“The Republic will have its own navy, which will be commanded by rear admiral Berezovsky,” Aksyonov told the journalists Sunday.

“Subsequently, this day will be considered the birthday of the naval forces of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea,” he added.

"All Navy troops dislocated in Sevastopol are ordered to disregard any commands coming from Ukraine's new self-proclaimed authorities," the PM also declared. "Do not take any orders of using arms till my personal instructions."

Aksyonov promised that “all soldiers, who’ll swear allegiance to the Crimean people, will retain their allowance, health and social benefits, military rank and position.”

http://rt.com/news/navy-chief-ukraine-crimea-485/

Americans are now admitting that Putin is playing chess while they are playing marbles LOL!
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kingfisher
#44 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 7:39:23 AM
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murchr wrote:
The region's Prime Minister Sergey Aksyonov announced the creation of Crimea's Navy forces and appointed Berezovsky its head.

“The Republic will have its own navy, which will be commanded by rear admiral Berezovsky,” Aksyonov told the journalists Sunday.

“Subsequently, this day will be considered the birthday of the naval forces of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea,” he added.

"All Navy troops dislocated in Sevastopol are ordered to disregard any commands coming from Ukraine's new self-proclaimed authorities," the PM also declared. "Do not take any orders of using arms till my personal instructions."

Aksyonov promised that “all soldiers, who’ll swear allegiance to the Crimean people, will retain their allowance, health and social benefits, military rank and position.”

http://rt.com/news/navy-chief-ukraine-crimea-485/

Americans are now admitting that Putin is playing chess while they are playing marbles LOL!


now this changes everything.... Putin can now "leave" the Crimea and be requested by the new authority to remain and offer training, guidance and so on and so forth to the newly formed naval forces... the real grand master!!!
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#45 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 8:03:17 AM
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and those of Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine. His confidence is matched by the knowledge that Ukraine's 46 million people have divided loyalties. While much of western Ukraine wants closer ties with the 28-nation European Union, its eastern and southern regions like Crimea look to Russia for support.

Russia has long wanted to reclaim the lush Crimean Peninsula, part of its territory until 1954. Russia's Black Sea Fleet pays Ukraine millions every year to be stationed at the Crimean port of Sevastopol and nearly 60 percent of Crimea's residents identify themselves as Russian.

http://www.foxnews.com/w...help-in-restoring-peace/
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#46 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 8:40:33 AM
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murchr wrote:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and those of Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine. His confidence is matched by the knowledge that Ukraine's 46 million people have divided loyalties. While much of western Ukraine wants closer ties with the 28-nation European Union, its eastern and southern regions like Crimea look to Russia for support.

Russia has long wanted to reclaim the lush Crimean Peninsula, part of its territory until 1954. Russia's Black Sea Fleet pays Ukraine millions every year to be stationed at the Crimean port of Sevastopol and nearly 60 percent of Crimea's residents identify themselves as Russian.

http://www.foxnews.com/w...help-in-restoring-peace/

so the US has decided to cut 'normal' ties with Russia! sema 'choices have consequences' sema 'essential contact'
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#47 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 8:52:57 AM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has defied calls from the West to pull back his troops, insisting that Russia has a right to protect its interests and those of Russian-speakers in Crimea and elsewhere in Ukraine. His confidence is matched by the knowledge that Ukraine's 46 million people have divided loyalties. While much of western Ukraine wants closer ties with the 28-nation European Union, its eastern and southern regions like Crimea look to Russia for support.

Russia has long wanted to reclaim the lush Crimean Peninsula, part of its territory until 1954. Russia's Black Sea Fleet pays Ukraine millions every year to be stationed at the Crimean port of Sevastopol and nearly 60 percent of Crimea's residents identify themselves as Russian.

http://www.foxnews.com/w...help-in-restoring-peace/

so the US has decided to cut 'normal' ties with Russia! sema 'choices have consequences' sema 'essential contact'


Very true but when Ukranians go to the polls come May, guys in Crimean will be asked to free themselves from Kiev, which they probably will but also they wont go for Russia, they might prefer their own say on their own matters.
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#48 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 9:09:23 AM
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masukuma wrote:
so the US has decided to cut 'normal' ties with Russia! sema 'choices have consequences' sema 'essential contact'

Looking at the trade statistics, that is nothing!!!!!! Russia is kind of self sufficient. Actually, Europe depend on its natural resources (esp. gas) with other option been Middle East.

Russia should just leave Eastern and South Ukrainians to decide their future through a referendum, otherwise, this may be a very dirty and expensive war. (Ukraine vs Russia). Ukraine also sio wadogo in terms of fire power.
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kingfisher
#49 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 11:13:42 AM
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hapa hakuna vita risasi.... look at the Ukraine border neibas.... Belarus, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Moldova..... apart from Poland i don't imagine any of the other neibas accepting their territories to be used to launch attacks against Russia for obvious reasons....
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#50 Posted : Monday, March 03, 2014 11:16:10 AM
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Why would Russia and the US want to fight unless they want to end the world as we know it now?
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