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#281 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:24:34 PM
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@danas10 - What does 'fly on a window' mean?I still don't get it.

@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.

I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?

@tycho - Conflict in God.This is something I have 'perceived' for I fear to say I have observed.But that's my journey.God not being constrained by time but still leaving giving 'free will' and choice is a topic I find very complicated.Preempting comes to mind.

@jokes - The tower of Babel is an interesting topic too.In chapter 10:31 it states they were "by their clans and languages" but 11 says they had "a common language".I need to think more about that.I can't deny the appeal in using religion to attain power and control but there is also the matter of spirituality.Are we really evolving if we've discarded something that all cultures have acknowledged existed?Even if we put aside spirituality,how can we assume what lies beyond death when life itself is a mystery.
tycho
#282 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:55:15 PM
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To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . .
symbols
#283 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:29:16 PM
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tycho wrote:
To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . .


Go on...
danas10
#284 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:29:32 PM
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Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back.

Are your questions your dances?Sad
symbols
#285 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:37:41 PM
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danas10 wrote:
Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back.

Are your questions your dances?Sad


I think I'm familiar with that torture.

Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance.
danas10
#286 Posted : Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:50:00 PM
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symbols wrote:
danas10 wrote:
Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back.

Are your questions your dances?Sad


I think I'm familiar with that torture.

Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance.


...enjoy the dances.
symbols
#287 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:20:28 AM
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danas10 wrote:
symbols wrote:
danas10 wrote:
Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back.

Are your questions your dances?Sad


I think I'm familiar with that torture.

Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance.


...enjoy the dances.


I will or I'll try.
captain kirk
#288 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:10:08 AM
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danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?
Muriel
#289 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:41:03 AM
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captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,,

Saw what?????

Who??????????
captain kirk
#290 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:57:48 AM
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Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,,

Saw what?????

Who??????????

Just answer the question.
Muriel
#291 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:03:28 AM
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captain kirk wrote:
Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,,

Saw what?????

Who??????????

Just answer the question.



I do not know.

Now what about my questions can you answer them?
Muriel
#292 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:06:28 AM
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symbols wrote:


@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.

I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?



Symbols, those are a lot of questions for me! Interesting terminology there! Quite catchy. Nice!

Lets see,,,,,,,,,,,

Who ought to have been more squeamish about the blood? Obviously the nurturer, the one who spent his time with the live animals. Picture putting a blade on the throat of an animal that just came to you by itself probably responding to your calls none the wiser of what you want to do.

1) And there is no record of Abel even once killing them for food. He in all likelihood ate what the eaters ate - seeds and fruit then later herbs.

2) And at that time he was not dumbed & numbed down, desensitized to killing, blood and death as we are today.

3) And its interesting that the one 'squeamish' about blood ends up spilling blood anyway. His own brothers blood. Strange, dont you think?


Next ,,,,,,,,,
danas10
#293 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:08:14 AM
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captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?


...she smile
danas10
#294 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:10:45 AM
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Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Relax.

Saw what????? @captain kirk's thoughts

Who??????????@danas saw


Or did you also see? smile smile
captain kirk
#295 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:32:39 AM
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danas10 wrote:
Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Relax.

Saw what????? @captain kirk's thoughts

Who??????????@danas saw


Or did you also see? smile smile

Please don't tell her. I beseech thee, @danas.Pray
captain kirk
#296 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:40:31 AM
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Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
Muriel wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
danas10 wrote:
captain kirk wrote:


Yep, definitely a relationsl


@captain kirk... i saw smile smile

@Danas, is that person a plug or socket?



An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,,

Saw what?????

Who??????????

Just answer the question.



I do not know.

Now what about my questions can you answer them?

Sure, with pleasure.
tycho
#297 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:04:46 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . .


Go on...


Jaynes is concerned about the origin of 'consciousness', and he posits that 'consciousness' has come out of the 'breakdown' of the bicameral mind. And that this breakdown is/was a result of the development of language; the manifestation of 'consciousness'.

There are arguments to show that consciousness isn't necessary for concepts, thinking and reasoning. But what is necessary for 'life'? Consciousness? Perhaps something 'greater'?

Consciousness is an act of creation. Consciousness isn't necessarily 'continuous'. Unless there's consciousness of consciousness- superconsciousness. Beyond fear.

To be conscious, you live in, and by fear. There's light and darkness.




Muriel
#298 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:52:41 PM
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captain kirk wrote:
Please don't tell her. I beseech thee, @danas.








Thine plea availst nought. Nary. Thou wist not i hath a brain? Thou hast a dearth of durst, fere, ye ought to have besought me to wit.
tycho
#299 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:18:06 PM
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'God' is a universal, and 'optimal strategy'.

Religion is a set of ideas, and patterns that conduce mind optimization and it thus follows that though religions may appear to be different they share a common intention and 'foundation'.

symbols
#300 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:38:27 PM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:


@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.

I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?



Symbols, those are a lot of questions for me! Interesting terminology there! Quite catchy. Nice!

Lets see,,,,,,,,,,,

Who ought to have been more squeamish about the blood? Obviously the nurturer, the one who spent his time with the live animals. Picture putting a blade on the throat of an animal that just came to you by itself probably responding to your calls none the wiser of what you want to do.

1) And there is no record of Abel even once killing them for food. He in all likelihood ate what the eaters ate - seeds and fruit then later herbs.

2) And at that time he was not dumbed & numbed down, desensitized to killing, blood and death as we are today.

3) And its interesting that the one 'squeamish' about blood ends up spilling blood anyway. His own brothers blood. Strange, dont you think?


Next ,,,,,,,,,


I think I should stop asking questions.

I agree with number 2.I also think we've become so desensitized to killing as well as other atrocious acts.But these are the times we live inSad

I see your perspective.As it was said earlier,it might have been his way of reacting/reaching God through the object of his affection.I like the similarity between the first noted murder of a 'shepherd'.

Next...go with your thoughts.
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