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@danas10 - What does 'fly on a window' mean?I still don't get it.
@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.
I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?
@tycho - Conflict in God.This is something I have 'perceived' for I fear to say I have observed.But that's my journey.God not being constrained by time but still leaving giving 'free will' and choice is a topic I find very complicated.Preempting comes to mind.
@jokes - The tower of Babel is an interesting topic too.In chapter 10:31 it states they were "by their clans and languages" but 11 says they had "a common language".I need to think more about that.I can't deny the appeal in using religion to attain power and control but there is also the matter of spirituality.Are we really evolving if we've discarded something that all cultures have acknowledged existed?Even if we put aside spirituality,how can we assume what lies beyond death when life itself is a mystery.
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To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . .
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tycho wrote:To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . . Go on...
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Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back. Are your questions your dances?
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danas10 wrote:Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back. Are your questions your dances? I think I'm familiar with that torture. Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance.
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symbols wrote:danas10 wrote:Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back. Are your questions your dances? I think I'm familiar with that torture. Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance. ...enjoy the dances.
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danas10 wrote:symbols wrote:danas10 wrote:Ah, @symbols, there is nothing much to think about my words. It was an indication of torture, desire to fly, yet not held back. Are your questions your dances? I think I'm familiar with that torture. Questions are my way of assimilating to the dance. ...enjoy the dances. I will or I'll try.
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danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket?
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captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Saw what????? Who??????????
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Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Saw what????? Who?????????? Just answer the question.
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captain kirk wrote:Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Saw what????? Who?????????? Just answer the question. I do not know. Now what about my questions can you answer them?
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symbols wrote:
@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.
I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?
Symbols, those are a lot of questions for me! Interesting terminology there! Quite catchy. Nice! Lets see,,,,,,,,,,, Who ought to have been more squeamish about the blood? Obviously the nurturer, the one who spent his time with the live animals. Picture putting a blade on the throat of an animal that just came to you by itself probably responding to your calls none the wiser of what you want to do. 1) And there is no record of Abel even once killing them for food. He in all likelihood ate what the eaters ate - seeds and fruit then later herbs. 2) And at that time he was not dumbed & numbed down, desensitized to killing, blood and death as we are today. 3) And its interesting that the one 'squeamish' about blood ends up spilling blood anyway. His own brothers blood. Strange, dont you think? Next ,,,,,,,,,
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captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? ...she
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Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Relax.Saw what????? @captain kirk's thoughtsWho?????????? @danas saw Or did you also see?
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danas10 wrote:Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Relax.Saw what????? @captain kirk's thoughtsWho?????????? @danas saw Or did you also see? Please don't tell her. I beseech thee, @danas.
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Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:Muriel wrote:captain kirk wrote:danas10 wrote:captain kirk wrote:
Yep, definitely a relationsl
@captain kirk... i saw @Danas, is that person a plug or socket? An unfamiliar position for me ,,,,, Saw what????? Who?????????? Just answer the question. I do not know. Now what about my questions can you answer them? Sure, with pleasure.
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:To look at 'God's' conflict, we may need to check Julian Jaynes' thoughts on the bicameral mind, and even our own thoughts. . . Go on... Jaynes is concerned about the origin of 'consciousness', and he posits that 'consciousness' has come out of the 'breakdown' of the bicameral mind. And that this breakdown is/was a result of the development of language; the manifestation of 'consciousness'. There are arguments to show that consciousness isn't necessary for concepts, thinking and reasoning. But what is necessary for 'life'? Consciousness? Perhaps something 'greater'? Consciousness is an act of creation. Consciousness isn't necessarily 'continuous'. Unless there's consciousness of consciousness- superconsciousness. Beyond fear. To be conscious, you live in, and by fear. There's light and darkness.
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captain kirk wrote: Please don't tell her. I beseech thee, @danas. Thine plea availst nought. Nary. Thou wist not i hath a brain? Thou hast a dearth of durst, fere, ye ought to have besought me to wit.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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'God' is a universal, and 'optimal strategy'.
Religion is a set of ideas, and patterns that conduce mind optimization and it thus follows that though religions may appear to be different they share a common intention and 'foundation'.
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Muriel wrote:symbols wrote:
@Muriel - I find it interesting that Cain was a 'naturer' and Abel a 'nurturer'.One brought forth the fruits of the 'accursed' ground and the other life that found sustenance from the very ground.I also assume Cain would be squeamish around blood.
I'm also curious of the implications of the question,"Am I my brother's keeper?" I want to hear your thoughts on Blavatsky,Daniel,Revelations,,,,,,,, I don't think 'philosophers' sit on pedestals but on stools.On denial,is it there by design or consequence?Possibly as a means to run away from truth?
Symbols, those are a lot of questions for me! Interesting terminology there! Quite catchy. Nice! Lets see,,,,,,,,,,, Who ought to have been more squeamish about the blood? Obviously the nurturer, the one who spent his time with the live animals. Picture putting a blade on the throat of an animal that just came to you by itself probably responding to your calls none the wiser of what you want to do. 1) And there is no record of Abel even once killing them for food. He in all likelihood ate what the eaters ate - seeds and fruit then later herbs. 2) And at that time he was not dumbed & numbed down, desensitized to killing, blood and death as we are today.3) And its interesting that the one 'squeamish' about blood ends up spilling blood anyway. His own brothers blood. Strange, dont you think? Next ,,,,,,,,, I think I should stop asking questions. I agree with number 2.I also think we've become so desensitized to killing as well as other atrocious acts.But these are the times we live in I see your perspective.As it was said earlier,it might have been his way of reacting/reaching God through the object of his affection.I like the similarity between the first noted murder of a 'shepherd'. Next...go with your thoughts.
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