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Namibia stock exchange now 2nd biggest in Africa afte JSE.
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:50:00 AM
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NamBrew shares are as rare as a clean Kenyan politician... As for TrustCo... I can get them on JSE (Alt-X)...

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
drake
#12 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:27:00 PM
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Not to rain on the NSX's parade but there are far more attractive options further south(?) on the JSE for both retail and institutional investors.....

I'm talking Equity derivatives e.g.(Can-Do-Options),Metal ETF exposure and ETN's reportedly coming as early as 2010. The products allow for the employment of leverage and give exposure to different and diverse asset classes.

The mother-of-them-all though are the Commodity futures (derivatives) that started trading about 19 calendar days ago covering platinum,gold and crude.

These products are also open to retail investors. Settlement prices are drawn from the CME and CBOT and will also mirror their contract dates. These contracts are Rand dominated and cash-settled so there's no fear of waking up to 100 (or more) barrels of oil sitting on your front yard!

A single contract is for 100 barrels of oil. Margin for the December 09 contract is R 5,700 (Kshs. 55,897)* per 100 barrel contract (Kshs. 586,996.65) i.e for Kshs. 56,000 you get exposure to an asset worth ~ Kshs. 586,000 with spread margin of R 1,700 (Kshs. 16,770). The Exchange Fee is R 10 (Kshs. 90.86) per contract.

There are no position limits. I'm not certain you can(not) deposit interest earning securities as margin.

There is also talk of pegging the strong Rand to the USD or a basket of foreign currencies which could intoduce some currency risk exposure as well.

If you feel you've conquered the local market (and I sense some of you have) why not step out and try to roll with the big boys?

*Using Rand/Kshs | USD/Kshs exchange prices from SK.

It often happens that a TRADER carries out a deep and complicated calculation,but fails to spot something elementary right at the first move!
pm
#13 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 3:55:00 PM
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'''Jogoo wa mjini .... [drake] anena ' I'm talking Equity derivatives e.g.(Can-Do-Options),Metal ETF exposure and ETN's reportedly coming as early as 2010. The products allow for the employment of leverage and give exposure to different and diverse asset classes.

The mother-of-them-all though are the Commodity futures (derivatives) that started trading about 19 calendar days ago covering platinum,gold and crude.

A single contract is for 100 barrels of oil. Margin for the December 09 contract is R 5,700 (Kshs. 55,897)* per 100 barrel contract (Kshs. 586,996.65) i.e for Kshs. 56,000 you get exposure to an asset worth ~ Kshs. 586,000 with spread margin of R 1,700 (Kshs. 16,770). The Exchange Fee is R 10 (Kshs. 90.86) per contract.

If you feel you've conquered the local market (and I sense some of you have) why not step out and try to roll with the big boys? '''

Wooooo! I second this idea; the real McCoy of investments,wazee it could never get any better than this, if there is strictly an African commodities ETFs ( Exchange Traded Funds),for gold,silver,... and others like copper,uranium ... oil,coal,NG ... tell us what is specifically listed and if tradable at NYSE as ADRs.

Kindly drop me some more specific information at ws_odysseus@yahoo.com ... very nice stuff

Oil futures may correct a bit to high 60s immediate term,but,then,they will explode to near 100 short term AIMMHO

Always jogoo wa shambani asili Koo Koo Roo!
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:47:00 PM
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lol... the CMA & NSE better look out... also Mauritius is introducing all sorts of financial products!

Greedy when others are fearful,Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase WB
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
khisa
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:25:00 AM
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wonder when the nse will get there.

evans khisa
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wote
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:23:00 AM
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Never,Only in your mind buddy''

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drake
#17 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:29:00 PM
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@pm
I'm sorry to disappoint but the only commodity ETF in Africa is ABSA's NewGold ETF that turns 5 years tomorrow.

It's domiciled in South Africa and backed by ~55.6 tonnes of physical gold. Now according to www.goldprice.com Spot Gold is at 1044.9 putting it's AUM at R 13.4 Billion.

One security is equal to 0.01oz and as of 30/10/09 the Ask price was R 79.20 (~Kshs. 776.16)

They're looking to do a 2nd listing on the BSE (Botswana) and who's to say Kenya won't be next?

It often happens that a TRADER carries out a deep and complicated calculation,but fails to spot something elementary right at the first move!
tonicasert
#18 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:43:00 PM
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@drake.

On the SA commodity futures (derivatives),can one do structured products or just plain vanilla / digital derivatives. Do you have a link for more info?
pm
#19 Posted : Sunday, November 01, 2009 11:16:00 PM
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@drake,thanks ...

Aaaaah! so the ONLY way to trade ABSA is to have an account with JSE( South Africa) ... I find that extremely difficult ( chasing global equities locally ), I do use Interactive Brokers for a wide spectrum of global equities,but I prefer ADRs ( I wait for the global equities to step into NYSE big league via the ADRs) ... at any rate, the African commodities are being snatched at a rapid clip,ABSA should soon be at par with NYMEX gold prices ...

KooKooRoo!

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