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as you we continue with this thread, is it possible to get ISUZU TIPPER SVR ama FORWARD ? Anyone who has done this?
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wanyee wrote:Am in the same line of bizness trust me ..this trailers ..no returns  ...10k net to Champala ..and lucky if u get a return trip haulage..kusumbuana na broker na ma driver( but i have good drivers) better off getting 2 x 4 fighters for short haul distance they make more trips per month & less nonsense of weigh bridges How would you rate the performance of Mitsubishi Fighter vs Mitsubishi FH vs Isuzu FRR vs Hino truck in terms of initial cost,running costs,carrying capacity and generally.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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wanyee wrote:Am in the same line of bizness trust me ..this trailers ..no returns ...10k net to Champala ..and lucky if u get a return trip haulage..kusumbuana na broker na ma driver( but i have good drivers) better off getting 2 x 4 fighters for short haul distance they make more trips per month & less nonsense of weigh bridges If this is the case,what explains this recent acquisition http://www.businessdaily...4/-/bai3p1/-/index.html plus the fact that Multiple Hauliers has a fleet of over 800 trucks in the region
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simonkabz wrote:Kindly avoid MAN! @Thimioni, care to elaborate. You are scaring me
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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Prime wrote:[quote=gatoho]I have a 1995 Renault Major lying somewhere in Timboroa after I got fed up maybe time to rethink?[/
Gatoho what happened? What got you fed up? Had a Champala load, got hijacked, not sure if driver was involved, or the load owner organized it to sell product locally, long story short KRA took the truck and was ugly as it was supposed to be in custom bonded warehouse. Did not help I was running it from far and my manager was getting over excited over tiny sums. Foresight..
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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I once overheard 2 older guys talking about prime movers and one was telling the other that he can expect an average of 10k daily return from the investment. Needless to say they went cold the minute I expressed interest.
I have tried to research into this. Business and my preliminary costs are coming to around 7m initial investment including a truck and some form of trailer. Am I anywhere close?
Are the returns Anything close to 10k daily?
I see several parked in mlolongo and various petrol stations, can business go dry to the extent that it is parked for weeks?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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mawinder wrote:wanyee wrote:Am in the same line of bizness trust me ..this trailers ..no returns ...10k net to Champala ..and lucky if u get a return trip haulage..kusumbuana na broker na ma driver( but i have good drivers) better off getting 2 x 4 fighters for short haul distance they make more trips per month & less nonsense of weigh bridges If this is the case,what explains this recent acquisition http://www.businessdaily...4/-/bai3p1/-/index.html plus the fact that Multiple Hauliers has a fleet of over 800 trucks in the region He has either got a deal kwa Simiti..gypsum , clinker ..and oil in UG or deep Sudan plus his family is big in mining so he could use them as residual fleet for the family biashara
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu
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mawinder wrote:wanyee wrote:Am in the same line of bizness trust me ..this trailers ..no returns ...10k net to Champala ..and lucky if u get a return trip haulage..kusumbuana na broker na ma driver( but i have good drivers) better off getting 2 x 4 fighters for short haul distance they make more trips per month & less nonsense of weigh bridges How would you rate the performance of Mitsubishi Fighter vs Mitsubishi FH vs Isuzu FRR vs Hino truck in terms of initial cost,running costs,carrying capacity and generally. mhh Details..details for 4 x 2 s':Mitsubishi fighters seem to be all the rage as for now ..FRR i have seen them in accidents a lot ( too much speed / or a fault in differential >>Isuzu)..Hino ..i know of the old make comparable to UD Nissan : tea companies used them to ferry tea to msa auction and fuel wood to the factories,,,the rest refer to http://www.autotalk.co.ke he had one article which had the details
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/19/2009 Posts: 671 Location: Nairobi
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kysse wrote:The 2 businesses I would consider doing in Kenya are: Warehousing and Long distance trucking.
@Kysse, Care to share more on this? Not sure this would be correct thread though.. Specifically, what areas/locations would be ripe for this business?
Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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mawinder wrote:wanyee wrote:Am in the same line of bizness trust me ..this trailers ..no returns ...10k net to Champala ..and lucky if u get a return trip haulage..kusumbuana na broker na ma driver( but i have good drivers) better off getting 2 x 4 fighters for short haul distance they make more trips per month & less nonsense of weigh bridges How would you rate the performance of Mitsubishi Fighter vs Mitsubishi FH vs Isuzu FRR vs Hino truck in terms of initial cost,running costs,carrying capacity and generally. Ongeza Nissan Diesel (UD Fighter) MKB210 truck kwa hiyo comparison. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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webish wrote:kysse wrote:The 2 businesses I would consider doing in Kenya are: Warehousing and Long distance trucking.
@Kysse, Care to share more on this? Not sure this would be correct thread though.. Specifically, what areas/locations would be ripe for this business? Mombasa road,Industrial area,Embakasi. The demand is very high. Trucking can turn out to be one's nightmare and so most companies prefer contracting than buying their own. I 100% believe that the drivers make more money than the owners.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/19/2009 Posts: 671 Location: Nairobi
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kysse wrote:webish wrote:kysse wrote:The 2 businesses I would consider doing in Kenya are: Warehousing and Long distance trucking.
@Kysse, Care to share more on this? Not sure this would be correct thread though.. Specifically, what areas/locations would be ripe for this business? Mombasa road,Industrial area,Embakasi. The demand is very high. Trucking can turn out to be one's nightmare and so most companies prefer contracting than buying their own. I 100% believe that the drivers make more money than the owners. Good if you have sizeable land along this area. Extremely expensive. or what would be the model if you don't have land already. What about border towns? Busia? Namanga? Would it make sense there really?
Life is joy, death is peace, but the transition is very difficult.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/8/2009 Posts: 171
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Outvestor wrote:kysse wrote:
If you are in serious biz of trucking please put your contacts here. Got customers.
vestor.out@gmail.com Still waiting... ¡ʇɹoɟɟǝ ƃuıɟɟǝ ǝɥʇ ɹoɟ ɥɔnɯ os ؛uıɐʌ uı ɔıqɐɹɐ ƃuıuɹɐǝן pǝıɹʇ ı
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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webish wrote:kysse wrote:webish wrote:kysse wrote:The 2 businesses I would consider doing in Kenya are: Warehousing and Long distance trucking.
@Kysse, Care to share more on this? Not sure this would be correct thread though.. Specifically, what areas/locations would be ripe for this business? Mombasa road,Industrial area,Embakasi. The demand is very high. Trucking can turn out to be one's nightmare and so most companies prefer contracting than buying their own. I 100% believe that the drivers make more money than the owners. Good if you have sizeable land along this area. Extremely expensive. or what would be the model if you don't have land already. What about border towns? Busia? Namanga? Would it make sense there really? Not unless you have specific requirements to meet as requested by your clients. A warehouse is best suited on major highways with promixity to Airports/Sea Ports/Industrial Factories/Container Terminals/Security zone/Town. etc. There are also other factors to consider like the nature of goods that you intend to store,your clientele,their distribution channels and markets etc. Whatever you can do to reduce costs,improve logistics co-ordination and enhance security will work to your advantage.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Mkimwa wrote:
As for overloading, its usually the truck owners rather than the truck driver. In some cases, there are customers who don't say the weight of the load, but then, there are private weighbridges you can go to and check the weight even after loading. If overloaded - then raise it with client at that point and agree on modalities.
In my experience, most truck drivers/owners know the weight of the goods. They are willing to overload and make more money, and deal with weighbridges issues.
http://www.kenha.co.ke/i...amp;id=41&Itemid=52
I have carried my small research online. For container weighing 29.6 kg the trucker should have provided; A Vehicle & semi trailer with 4 axles to carry btwn gw 34,000kg and 36,000 kgor Vehicle with 4 axles with max gw of 30,000kg.BUT he decides to bring; A Vehicle and semi-trailer with total of 3 axles with max gw of 28,000kg.Which makes him get nubbed and fined. Quest: Isn't the fine the truck owner's cost? It's not my duty as a customer to know the axle no or the truck model required. My duty is to disclose the weight and you bring the correct truck. Do you agree with me? Can you post an image of a Vehicle and semi-trailer with total of 3 axles with max gw of 28,000kg. and a Vehicle with 4 axles with max gw of 30,000kg? I want to see the physical diff.if there is any. Also,please confirm this; Kenya allows a maximum of 48 tonnes for vehicles, Rwanda and Burundi 53 tonnes while Tanzania and Uganda allow 56 tonnes, Thank you.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2008 Posts: 380
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kysse wrote:
Can you post an image of a
Vehicle and semi-trailer with total of 3 axles with max gw of 28,000kg.
and a Vehicle with 4 axles with max gw of 30,000kg?
I want to see the physical diff.if there is any.
Also,please confirm this;
Kenya allows a maximum of 48 tonnes for vehicles, Rwanda and Burundi 53 tonnes while Tanzania and Uganda allow 56 tonnes,
Thank you.
Semitrailers in Kenya are only permitted to have a maximum of 3 axles. You will not see any semi-trailer vehicle with 4 axles, hence this option is not feasible. As for the Prime mover, a vehicle with double diff allows you to carry 2t extra than the normal ones (with leading axle), which can only carry maximum of 28t. Pictures:Vehicle and semi-trailer with total of 3 axles with max gw of 28,000kg.Your normal trailer..  Vehicle with 4 axles with max gw of 30,000kg?- Used for tippers, cement mixers, specialized applications e.g. borehole digging trucks, you will not get such being used to carry a 40ft container. 
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 608 Location: Ruiru
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In terms of compliance.... what do I need before my truck can operate on kenyan roads? Speed governor? TLB? Inspection? How much do they cost for a Mistubishi FH? "..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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@ mkimwa ,thank you so much.Your reply has helped me a lot,like you have no idea. I spoke to KNHA,who cofirmed that a Double Diff with a leading axle is permitted to carry 1x40'up to 36 mtons gw on kenyan roads. You See a 'smart' transporter carried above 28mtons on a normal 3 axle truck.Got him!  Ili iwe funzo kwa madereva greedy kama hao...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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@mkimwa, you are a guru in this business. I operate one which has been okay. Been lucky to get consistent jobs mainly 40ft containers from MSA to nrb where I get paid directly.
My biggest challenge is the crew. Apart from tracking technology, how else do you manage these guys?
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2008 Posts: 380
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GGK wrote:In terms of compliance.... what do I need before my truck can operate on kenyan roads?
Speed governor? TLB? Inspection?
How much do they cost for a Mistubishi FH? Inspection is necessary, you take the vehicle to the inspection center, if they give your vehicle a clean bill of health, you are good to go for the next 1 year. The speed governor is also a must. The new requirements for the speed governors also apply to trucks and other commercial vehicles. I dont know anyone who has fitted the new governors as yet. Of course you need third party insurance, and yellow card if you are going outside Kenya. Also you may need a transit licence, if you are carrying transit goods.
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