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Alfie the dodo
mawinder
#591 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:46:48 PM
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Joined: 4/30/2008
Posts: 6,029
[quote=simonkabz]SMH.
Roads being improved
Health facilities being improved
Ambulances on ground

Hii kelele yote ni ya nani?

What has your ngavana done? Mine has dug trenches across streets in the middle of town. Semeni ng'ombe[/quote
He registered Subarus in the County executive committe's names,Spent 3m for Mutula's funeral yet Mutula is from Makueni,He hired a PA system for 5 hours for 1m,no tenders are invited for his projects etc.He is a thief who should go the Wambora way and be jailed.
poundfoolish
#592 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:47:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 2,458
Location: Nairobi
jguru wrote:
murchr wrote:
Treatment doesnt have to be in hospitals, those ambulances can be used as mobile clinics once in a while. But dakitari jguru, what is wrong with a location having an ambulance? I dont understand this negative reception maybe because in places where @kiash lives even the local fire-station has its own ambulance leave alone the hospitals. The reasoning being that no one should ever die because he could not reach to any health facility. So saidia mimi to understand why its un-viable to have 1 ambulance in a locale.


We are a country of limited resources. Akina @Kimuhu can afford to have world class health care even in a local ward.

My problem is that decisions are being made for political expediency and as an avenue to eat. We are just sewing patches onto a dress instead of proper planning, involving stakeholders in healthcare (who have a firm understanding of evidence based practice) and coming up with a proper healthcare reform plan (coming up with a new dress).


@jguru
The disillusioned wont make head or tail of what you are crying out hoarse about.
They are content with pettiness, superfluous shows of grandeur. mesmerised by the razzmatazz.
You can hear them begging 'give us more! give us more!'
People want to see things.. they are being shown things..
they are being shown fundamendooz
simonkabz
#593 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:54:10 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
poundfoolish wrote:
jguru wrote:
murchr wrote:
Treatment doesnt have to be in hospitals, those ambulances can be used as mobile clinics once in a while. But dakitari jguru, what is wrong with a location having an ambulance? I dont understand this negative reception maybe because in places where @kiash lives even the local fire-station has its own ambulance leave alone the hospitals. The reasoning being that no one should ever die because he could not reach to any health facility. So saidia mimi to understand why its un-viable to have 1 ambulance in a locale.


We are a country of limited resources. Akina @Kimuhu can afford to have world class health care even in a local ward.

My problem is that decisions are being made for political expediency and as an avenue to eat. We are just sewing patches onto a dress instead of proper planning, involving stakeholders in healthcare (who have a firm understanding of evidence based practice) and coming up with a proper healthcare reform plan (coming up with a new dress).


@jguru
The disillusioned wont make head or tail of what you are crying out hoarse about.
They are content with pettiness, superfluous shows of grandeur. mesmerised by the razzmatazz.
You can hear them begging 'give us more! give us more!'
People want to see things.. they are being shown things..
they are being shown fundamendooz


Building roads, health centres, dams is pettiness....razzmatazz sijui nini. Have you ever seen anything good in this country ama kila SAA ni nduru tu?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
murchr
#594 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:57:49 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
mawinder wrote:
[quote=simonkabz]SMH.
Roads being improved
Health facilities being improved
Ambulances on ground

Hii kelele yote ni ya nani?

What has your ngavana done? Mine has dug trenches across streets in the middle of town. Semeni ng'ombe[/quote
He registered Subarus in the County executive committe's names,Spent 3m for Mutula's funeral yet Mutula is from Makueni,He hired a PA system for 5 hours for 1m,no tenders are invited for his projects etc.He is a thief who should go the Wambora way and be jailed.


Wewe kwani ulihama kutoka mumias? Mutua gave a plausible explanation i guess you are the only one complaining despite being a stakeholder
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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T-Bag
#595 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 3:59:14 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2008
Posts: 510
Mutua planned on what goals to achieve when he becomes governor, "Others" were to plan if they win; that is the difference. wazuans need to focus on enriching the work in progress instead on destructive criticism. I envy this man, Keep it up what a big departure from the Gava spokesperson I knew
I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
murchr
#596 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:00:25 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
jguru wrote:
murchr wrote:
Treatment doesnt have to be in hospitals, those ambulances can be used as mobile clinics once in a while. But dakitari jguru, what is wrong with a location having an ambulance? I dont understand this negative reception maybe because in places where @kiash lives even the local fire-station has its own ambulance leave alone the hospitals. The reasoning being that no one should ever die because he could not reach to any health facility. So saidia mimi to understand why its un-viable to have 1 ambulance in a locale.


We are a country of limited resources. Akina @Kimuhu can afford to have world class health care even in a local ward.

Those ambulances have a stretcher and a couple of seats at the back. No monitors, no medical equipment, no emergency drugs. This reduces them to just normal matatus. A proper ambulance is like a mobile ICU (AAR, Red Cross etc). You can do emergency surgery in them.

My problem is that decisions are being made for political expediency and as an avenue to eat. We are just sewing patches onto a dress instead of proper planning, involving stakeholders in healthcare (who have a firm understanding of evidence based practice) and coming up with a proper healthcare reform plan (coming up with a new dress).


Alfie said the ambulances are fully equipped wewe umeona ndani ya hio gari? And why the assumption that stakeholders were not involved? Apparently I see the Mks women rep is a doc
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma
#597 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:06:16 PM
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Joined: 7/20/2007
Posts: 4,432
I would rather have 1 Alfred Mutua than 42 Kideros. Even if that ambulance is a mkokoteni, trust me, in a location, that may be the only means of transport in the area.

The people of Lamu don't even have fuel let alone a car.

Honestly sometimes we do need to see when someone is trying to do good and this fellow is trying better than anyone.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
masukuma
#598 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:12:31 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
alma wrote:
I would rather have 1 Alfred Mutua than 42 Kideros. Even if that ambulance is a mkokoteni, trust me, in a location, that may be the only means of transport in the area.

The people of Lamu don't even have fuel let alone a car.

Honestly sometimes we do need to see when someone is trying to do good and this fellow is trying better than anyone.

hebu ambia hawa watu! what have the others done over the same period?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
murchr
#599 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:20:44 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
masukuma wrote:
alma wrote:
I would rather have 1 Alfred Mutua than 42 Kideros. Even if that ambulance is a mkokoteni, trust me, in a location, that may be the only means of transport in the area.

The people of Lamu don't even have fuel let alone a car.

Honestly sometimes we do need to see when someone is trying to do good and this fellow is trying better than anyone.

hebu ambia hawa watu! what have the others done over the same period?


The financial year is coming to an end in June, will they surrender the money back to the gov?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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jaggernaut
#600 Posted : Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:21:29 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
poundfoolish wrote:
jguru wrote:
murchr wrote:
Treatment doesnt have to be in hospitals, those ambulances can be used as mobile clinics once in a while. But dakitari jguru, what is wrong with a location having an ambulance? I dont understand this negative reception maybe because in places where @kiash lives even the local fire-station has its own ambulance leave alone the hospitals. The reasoning being that no one should ever die because he could not reach to any health facility. So saidia mimi to understand why its un-viable to have 1 ambulance in a locale.


We are a country of limited resources. Akina @Kimuhu can afford to have world class health care even in a local ward.

My problem is that decisions are being made for political expediency and as an avenue to eat. We are just sewing patches onto a dress instead of proper planning, involving stakeholders in healthcare (who have a firm understanding of evidence based practice) and coming up with a proper healthcare reform plan (coming up with a new dress).


@jguru
The disillusioned wont make head or tail of what you are crying out hoarse about.
They are content with pettiness, superfluous shows of grandeur. mesmerised by the razzmatazz.
You can hear them begging 'give us more! give us more!'
People want to see things.. they are being shown things..
they are being shown fundamendooz

To improve healthcare, you equip health centers at the grassroots, not buying 200 ambulances to ferry patients from ramshackle dispensaries at the grassroots to mayakos hospital, knh etc.

To improve security and reduce crime, you create more employment for the youth, not buying 200 patrol cars and fierce dogs, and CCTVs in every shopping centre.

Seems mutua is an expert in treating symptoms instead of addressing the cause of the problems afflicting mayakos. His development model can never work.

He even grabbed the Veterinary land that was being used for livestock research to build an entertainment park! The land (and research) was helping small scale livestock farmers in mayakos improve their stocks and increase incomes.

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