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mawinder
#101 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:58:26 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
mawinder wrote:
So long as Kikuyus dont have any logical explanation as to why they live in Njoro,Burnt Forest,Kitale,Nakuru in large numbers the problem is far from settled.



Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Do you need to have a logical explanation to be anywhere in kenya if you are kenyan?

And to whom do you owe the explanation?


Theoretically you dont need an explanation but it would be good to look at the 1992 clashes after the elections and the PEV and confirm my views.
poundfoolish
#102 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:02:13 PM
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The Rift Valley shall blow up again 5,10,20years? I don't know. but it soon shall

The foondamento causes of the conflict are still not addressed.

The game plan now is to replace WSR with Bw. Chairman probably in 2022...

Iko shida na sio ya nguo

And while both camps are on each others necks. please note RAO took his delegates to Lake Naivasha lodge owned by who? and later had a meeting at China plate...owned by who?

and his businesses are still running tena sana... facilitate by who?

Afrikans!!!!!!
accelriskconsult
#103 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:28:50 PM
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Location: Nai
githundi wrote:
mawinder wrote:
So long as Kikuyus dont have any logical explanation as to why they live in Njoro,Burnt Forest,Kitale,Nakuru in large numbers the problem is far from settled.

Boss, i come from Njoro. I was born there, my parents were born there. I mean what are you asking?
Fyi
1. Our grandfathers bought the land from white settlers through cooperative society in independence times.
2. This land were historically Maa grazing lands including Nakuru and Rongai areas.
3. Nakuru is in fact a Maasai word.
4. If there's any claim to the land, it should be by the Maa, the same they would claim Nairobi.
We were in the front line, and i can confirm most of the thoughts in this thread is just hear say.
So let's sober up.


You only need to read Njenga Karume's biography, 'from charcoal to gold' and you will realize that there were also other communities organized in cooperative societies and with money who wanted to purchase the farms in Njoro. It was not a question of having money or being organized. It was a question of being 'allowed' to purchase land. But it happened and you cant be blamed for it. Fixing the problems requires the communities to acknowledge their contribution to the problems and probably gacaca courts (the Rwanda way)
Lolest!
#104 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:52:17 PM
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Location: Kianjokoma
mawinder wrote:
So long as Kikuyus dont have any logical explanation as to why they live in Njoro,Burnt Forest,Kitale,Nakuru in large numbers the problem is far from settled.

I will not go with the tide

I can't just attack you. You see, after the PEV, we buried the weeds deep into the soil.

We, the people, became angelic, harmless creatures who were just controlled by politicians to commit the crimes. We never had the hate, it was leaders who were fighting and used us as their weapons!

We then went for leaders thinking it would sort it but it wasn't to be! It is apparent that the educated class is no different from the Kibera class! This thread and another a few weeks back is proof.

We are full of hatred. Forget the politicians and the guys in Kibera, Kiambaa or Naivasha. We are and were to blame!

Now to one of the real issues, land. Did you know that there were Kikuyus living in RV in the 1920s? Life was hard at home and it was easier for them to live in RV. Infact Njenga Karume was born there(1929).

Now ask such fellows to trace their roots to Kanyenyaini!!
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#105 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:58:27 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:


You only need to read Njenga Karume's biography, 'from charcoal to gold' and you will realize that there were also other communities organized in cooperative societies and with money who wanted to purchase the farms in Njoro. It was not a question of having money or being organized. It was a question of being 'allowed' to purchase land. But it happened and you cant be blamed for it. Fixing the problems requires the communities to acknowledge their contribution to the problems and probably gacaca courts (the Rwanda way)

Read Karume there was nothing like that
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Swenani
#106 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:04:37 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:


You only need to read Njenga Karume's biography, 'from charcoal to gold' and you will realize that there were also other communities organized in cooperative societies and with money who wanted to purchase the farms in Njoro. It was not a question of having money or being organized. It was a question of being 'allowed' to purchase land. But it happened and you cant be blamed for it. Fixing the problems requires the communities to acknowledge their contribution to the problems and probably gacaca courts (the Rwanda way)

Read Karume there was nothing like that


Did you read the orginal,photocopied,downloaded form KAT or the newspaper book reviews?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#107 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:07:02 PM
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Location: Vacuum
poundfoolish wrote:
The Rift Valley shall blow up again 5,10,20years? I don't know. but it soon shall

The foondamento causes of the conflict are still not addressed.

The game plan now is to replace WSR with Bw. Chairman probably in 2022...

Iko shida na sio ya nguo

And while both camps are on each others necks. please note RAO took his delegates to Lake Naivasha lodge owned by who? and later had a meeting at China plate...owned by who?

and his businesses are still running tena sana... facilitate by who?

Afrikans!!!!!!


Thank you!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
murchr
#108 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:22:09 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Tokyo wrote:
Africa is difficult. not the terrains but that soft tissue hidden under the skull of her people.


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simonkabz
#109 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:42:14 PM
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Location: Cameroon
Lolest! wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:


You only need to read Njenga Karume's biography, 'from charcoal to gold' and you will realize that there were also other communities organized in cooperative societies and with money who wanted to purchase the farms in Njoro. It was not a question of having money or being organized. It was a question of being 'allowed' to purchase land. But it happened and you cant be blamed for it. Fixing the problems requires the communities to acknowledge their contribution to the problems and probably gacaca courts (the Rwanda way)

Read Karume there was nothing like that


Accel lies a lot. I don't really understand his biased comments, maybe they are some sort of parables? I also doubt he takes time to understand other people's comments.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
harrydre
#110 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:46:04 PM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
Angelica _ann wrote:
There is a group who think they have entitlement to Kenya than others and keep on pissing on others whenever they want. Wapi @ tnai9 hawachugulie as they do their thing!

Time is coming and not long when others will not take the crap no more!


Go ahead and destroy kisumu as you always do. We will of course rebuild it and bill you.
i.am.back!!!!
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