@alma

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh!!!! mean!

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.

@ Mr. Tea

You talk of passing life lessons to the young. Well,this is it. It is in such forums that we hope they read our dissenting views and learn tolerance.

I hope some of the elderly also pick up a few lessons.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.

@Ecstacy

Keep it simple,its all about people management.

No wonder you are still stuck in the PEV cycle,now I get it.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.

@Njunge,nice one. You wonder if some of these pple have ever run anything,hata kiosk.

You should see the clothes they wear. A young man with a trouser belted below his bums proudly showing off his boxer shorts. His sister is wearing a low cut jeans with nothing beneath. When the two sit down,you have the most disgusting scene in the world. Our dear old lecturer can only look in disbelief. He lives with it day in and day out. He has no respect for his students from the word go. This is not the most conducive of enviroments for a lecturer student relationship.

Within the campus,you cannot tell the number of drug peddlers. My guess is they are a couple. One wonders why drug peddlers are never arrested. It is as if there are no drugs in our country. I support coastal people taking the law unto their hands to deal with drug dealers.

The media is also to blame. For a student to set alight a residence block while there are people inside the building shows how things have gone bad. Our media is sensational. They will show any scene. Dead bodies,people bleeding,wailing relatives,people burning alive,and you can add to the list. You cannot stop them. They are a free press with no responsibilities. They do not understand the effect of their actions. Kenyans no longer value life thanks to them. Yet,they are very good at doing a rejoinder when such events occur. Shame on them.

It has also been said that our family units are breaking down. The effect is that the number of vichwa gumu has gone up. The kids cannot obey any rules or anyone for that matter.




Fundamentals + Sentiments = Position

@Fundamental ali and the other fundamentals on this board

If your children have bad manners,that is your fault not mine. Don't come here telling us how you have failed as a parent and expect sympathy from us. Ukae na shida zako na mavazi ya watoto wako.

@ectasy

Obi has given you a very good example of a police force that is well managed. All you can come up with is stupid comments that we have never run anything. You may be surprised if you dig deep enough. But do I say.

@ the dress code lunatics.

I have worked in companies everywhere in the world. It is only in Kenya where your boss (Pray its not one of these SK fanatics) can fire you for how you dress. Unless of course you are working for a fundamentalist christian boss in South Carolina with a chip on his back.

@Njunge

When your arguments have lost any semblence of coherent thought you go back to what you know best. Tribal abuse,fake age philosophy,anti- kenyan diasporan arguments. If you cannot come up with a logical point please save it for when you have some soap and privacy.

As much as I am against violence,it is plainly obvious that to the kenyan elite a good life means totally hammering anyone not agreeing with them.

I wonder what pleasure you take in the death of anyone. Even a thief deserves his time in court. However,it is plainly obvious that some on this board would rather have a few more dead people than taking the time to talk. If that woman had taken just an hour of her time to talk to the students,we would not be talking about any of this.

There is nothing special or different between a student now and a student of yesteryear. The same hormones still rage. It is only the best VC's who managed to manage these hormones. Naturally,this woman has failed in what all other college VC's have succeded in doing.

If she had taken the high road as the leader in KU and not the fashion police,we would still have those buildings and students who are still alive.

I am sorry to say,that ectasy you are right. This is an example of the PEV issue. Now you know what I think of your damn leaders and their failure to anticipate chaos and act with a measured response.
and @mnjoro you should start by blacklisting all student leaders who led strikes in colleges. kabando,orengo,etc etc. You are not as bright as you think.

@FundamentAlly.

Your post is interesting,you are tossing blame around like they are getting out of fashion.

Out of interest,where are you in all this. You are obviously not the student,nor the media. Which working part of our rotten society do you represent.

BTW,most students in public universities are hardworking,serious young men and women (average B+ in KCSE) and come from mainly lower middleclass and poor families.

They can't afford sagging jeans or boxers,they also can't afford drugs (even bhang' is relatively expensive),they would rather buy food and stick to the second hand clothes.

The young people you are referring to are in USIU and on MTV.



I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.

@nanfor

I hope I was not discussing you. BTW,I have no chicldren.


Fundamentals + Sentiments = Position

@nanfor

Thats all i needed to know because it now helps me understand your posts and i will tell you why

1. Your posts are long - typically a lady
2. Your language was man(ish).... they tend not to care much about the words they drop hence may not be as refined as ladies.(for all the guys here - Hope you understand what i mean).
3. Your hateful language about the VC and reference to her with all sorts of names was more 'chauvinistic' so i thought that could be a hateful man
4. Sometimes letting your emotions run higher and clog your objective thinking (not always but its more a characteristic of a lady)

I hope you understand my confusion in understanding where you are coming from and hence my question. I do respect all your posts so dont take it personal.... we dont all dont have to come to one agreement.

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.

Most people are always loud mouthed in supporting the actions by our police officers......WAIT UNTIL IT DESCENDS TO YOUR FAMILY OR CLOSED ONES......utasema kumbe haukuwa umejuwa!!!!

Make money.....then you will enjoy all the fine things in life!!!