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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain?  I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took. If everything else was the same, why the difference?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took. If everything else was the same, why the difference? He was an angry man.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:alma wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:I'm still revolving around energy especially in the context of cymatics.If frequency and vibration can do that, and thoughts are an expression of energy, what does that mean to our physical bodies?That also leads to something interesting.If our thoughts are based on how we perceive and interpret stimuli,does that imply perception is the use of energy(thoughts) to 'tune in' to a certain frequency and subsequently result to a certain vibration? Consider why it's said, 'as a man thinketh, so is he.' Or Sartre's, 'the question determines and implies the answer'. Or the way Buddhists say everything we have, we've created for ourselves. Or the distance and space that meditation offers, and the different results it yields compared to normal 'egoic' thoughts. 'With out thoughts,we make the world'.'You reap what you sow.'Honestly I'm dumbfounded. Yet one seems to be trapped into a certain and specific thought pattern from without. Although I agree I haven't explored that fully.What do you mean? he said you can't even think. you depend on others to think for you. ilikuwa matusi fuuuundamedaly.  Hahahaha! @Alma seems to have captured the meaning, but with a bias to his brand of 2 am. warlord goggles. But with no matusi intended one often fails to use the mind for himself and let's others to do it for him under the guise of doctrine, tradition, culture. . . and the like. Perhaps the reason behind such abdication is the fear of being like 'God'. Damn  Tycho i thought someone wanted a fighting match with you and didn't bother to click and read until now. i am enjoying this.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took. If everything else was the same, why the difference? He was an angry man. What made him angry? And how did Abel not get angry with this thing?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:alma wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:I'm still revolving around energy especially in the context of cymatics.If frequency and vibration can do that, and thoughts are an expression of energy, what does that mean to our physical bodies?That also leads to something interesting.If our thoughts are based on how we perceive and interpret stimuli,does that imply perception is the use of energy(thoughts) to 'tune in' to a certain frequency and subsequently result to a certain vibration? Consider why it's said, 'as a man thinketh, so is he.' Or Sartre's, 'the question determines and implies the answer'. Or the way Buddhists say everything we have, we've created for ourselves. Or the distance and space that meditation offers, and the different results it yields compared to normal 'egoic' thoughts. 'With out thoughts,we make the world'.'You reap what you sow.'Honestly I'm dumbfounded. Yet one seems to be trapped into a certain and specific thought pattern from without. Although I agree I haven't explored that fully.What do you mean? he said you can't even think. you depend on others to think for you. ilikuwa matusi fuuuundamedaly. Hahahaha! @Alma seems to have captured the meaning, but with a bias to his brand of 2 am. warlord goggles. But with no matusi intended one often fails to use the mind for himself and let's others to do it for him under the guise of doctrine, tradition, culture. . . and the like. Perhaps the reason behind such abdication is the fear of being like 'God'. Explain. The 'I' uses the 'mind'. But sometimes the mind uses the I. Many a times.
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tycho wrote:[quote=butterflyke]@tycho,
I wonder if watching the movie again will open up insight and understanding. But lying on your right, and following your breath while replaying the movie in your mind might do wonders.  From what you have described i will look for the book and read before watching the movie. It sounds like bridges over Madison county the book is a classic but the movie does not even come close to the author's emotional impact.
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symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Indeed interesting. @danas10 - Accommodate my question to satisfy my curiosity(mine is also a straightforward question.yes or no ) Can you walk on darkness? You walk ON it or IN it? That's the question. Well, then Yes (only in the abstract can u walk ON darkness considering sight is creative/imaginatively so to speak.) Is blindness sight Blindness is ignorant sight. Do you need to see if you already know? the appropriate question is, 'do you need to know if you already know?'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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jokes wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Indeed interesting. @danas10 - Accommodate my question to satisfy my curiosity(mine is also a straightforward question.yes or no ) Can you walk on darkness? You walk ON it or IN it? That's the question. Well, then Yes (only in the abstract can u walk ON darkness considering sight is creative/imaginatively so to speak.) Is blindness sight Blindness is ignorant sight. Do you need to see if you already know? the appropriate question is, 'do you need to know if you already know?' Reminds me of Plato. We aren't knowing, we are remembering. And perhaps creating knowledge.
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:tycho wrote:
Yes. Formless. We should focus on the pattern across humanity.
The mind & Humane(ity) can they associated with computing programming & God as the Arch-Programmer. Abstraction, polymorphism, inheritance. Class, object. OOP? Yes.You use it all the time but you should also consider the impact of freewill and the curious case of preconditioned behaviours e.g. breastfeeding.As @tycho said there are patterns and they seem to persist over time.If you understand associative learning you'll come to appreciate the potential of imagination and philosophy. Yes. There's association with programming, but I see the universe as self programming. The 'arch programmer' exists by virtue of human imagination and wisdom. It's a metaphor. You are the 'arch programmer'. In other words, 'are we not like God?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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tycho wrote:jokes wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Chief Guest wrote:symbols wrote:Indeed interesting. @danas10 - Accommodate my question to satisfy my curiosity(mine is also a straightforward question.yes or no ) Can you walk on darkness? You walk ON it or IN it? That's the question. Well, then Yes (only in the abstract can u walk ON darkness considering sight is creative/imaginatively so to speak.) Is blindness sight Blindness is ignorant sight. Do you need to see if you already know? the appropriate question is, 'do you need to know if you already know?' Reminds me of Plato. We aren't knowing, we are remembering. And perhaps creating knowledge. i agree with you we remember what we know/knew and now we know the truth (knowledge).
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2008 Posts: 323
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took. If everything else was the same, why the difference? He was an angry man. What made him angry? And how did Abel not get angry with this thing? that's an interesting one. never thought it that way. if they were brought up the same , what happened to make them different, the ego i presume which we have no control over, the invisible hand that we refuse to see? God?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? I've been wondering who this David is, now I wonder how one can give Cain a run for 'his money'. Symbols can clarify. But has Cain ever stopped running? Running towards what? Or away from what/who? And who is this asking about Cain? Abel. Your Abel is becoming Cain. Abel cannot deny his brother. We grew up together and received the same instructions among other things. The only difference was the decisions we each took. If everything else was the same, why the difference? He was an angry man. What made him angry? And how did Abel not get angry with this thing? Yes, what made him angry? No one else was angry.
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jokes wrote:
that's an interesting one. never thought it that way. if they were brought up the same , what happened to make them different, the ego i presume which we have no control over, the invisible hand that we refuse to see? God?
They had the same privileges, same upbringing yet ended up 2 different worshipers. What happened to Cain?
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tycho wrote:I saw the other signature you had. The one with boxes and inverted characters and I couldn't get one of the words. And now again this one is has the same 'challenge'. Makes me wonder if you're still following the breath. No I'm not.I'm fading into it. What word?There is no challenge in this one.Just a funny joke I found. Muriel wrote:David? Not Cain? King David.
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