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Konza City. Whats the progress so far?
Angelica _ann
#91 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 9:28:48 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Gathige wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
newfarer wrote:
just passed there.nothing.

was actually thinking suppose the government revives the ranch in the idle land or even starts rearing antellopes zebras and afew lions and starts a conservancy?

Siringi wrote:
so twas another quailamid schemeSad Sad

very sad

who-knows-where-much-hyped-konza-technocity-went-one-year-later



A conservancy would be a great idea.


It would be a good place to release the millions of quails that will soon be looking for a home. Tambaya chameleon farmers will finally be vindicated!

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Quail City is more like it!
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#92 Posted : Wednesday, February 05, 2014 10:30:23 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
The sad part about Konza s that despite critisizing the project, Govt still went ahead and used our tax money to acquire the land and pay hefty fees to international lawyers,architects, engineers and town planners.

So all kenyan tax payers are loosers in the konza project as a country.
The money should have been used to fund ICT innovation at uon or JKUCAT so as to benefit tax payers .


Unfortunately bw. a4architect.com most of the govt projects on going and proposed are not well thought out and will not have any meaningful impact to this country.

jokes
#93 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 10:03:16 AM
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If i had idle money i would in invest in the place. Maybe buy a plot or two and wait cause i don't think the Government could have gone through all this and failed to deliver. its on paper and it has to be implemented however long we have to wait. The Government is a bureaucracy and moves painfully slowly but the Government has to work. It paid for the land using our money. It owes us. Remember the Thika road demolitions started in 2002 and we got the road in 2012.
a4architect.com
#94 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 10:16:05 AM
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@jokes, the thika road project was feasible from all points of view hence taking the 10 years from concept to completion.
For Konza, no matter which angle any one wants to look at it, there is just no justification . Konza will grow naturally just as all towns frow. Growth starts from CBD then radiates to Athi river then Machakos junction /Machakos town then to Konza then to Makindu all the way to Mombasa in the next 50 to 100 years or so. This growth tends to follow the road/rilway hence it will be along the mombasa road and only branches towards Machakos because of the exisiting machakos infrastructure.

For Konza to jump all the empty undeveloped spaces between Athi river and Machakos junction, i dont see the possibility in the near 10 to 15 years. The growth at Konza will just have to follow this pattern.
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Muriel
#95 Posted : Friday, February 07, 2014 10:56:02 AM
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The only thing I know about Konza City is @Alma.

jokes
#96 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2014 10:34:46 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@jokes, the thika road project was feasible from all points of view hence taking the 10 years from concept to completion.
For Konza, no matter which angle any one wants to look at it, there is just no justification . Konza will grow naturally just as all towns frow. Growth starts from CBD then radiates to Athi river then Machakos junction /Machakos town then to Konza then to Makindu all the way to Mombasa in the next 50 to 100 years or so. This growth tends to follow the road/rilway hence it will be along the mombasa road and only branches towards Machakos because of the exisiting machakos infrastructure.

For Konza to jump all the empty undeveloped spaces between Athi river and Machakos junction, i dont see the possibility in the near 10 to 15 years. The growth at Konza will just have to follow this pattern.


Which CBD?? anyway your observations have made me think. The former Govt spokesman was out of the block first/fast...makes you think....
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poundfoolish
#97 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2014 1:23:08 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@jokes, the thika road project was feasible from all points of view hence taking the 10 years from concept to completion.
For Konza, no matter which angle any one wants to look at it, there is just no justification . Konza will grow naturally just as all towns frow. Growth starts from CBD then radiates to Athi river then Machakos junction /Machakos town then to Konza then to Makindu all the way to Mombasa in the next 50 to 100 years or so. This growth tends to follow the road/rilway hence it will be along the mombasa road and only branches towards Machakos because of the exisiting machakos infrastructure.

For Konza to jump all the empty undeveloped spaces between Athi river and Machakos junction, i dont see the possibility in the near 10 to 15 years. The growth at Konza will just have to follow this pattern.


Thika road feasible? maybe the initial designs and plans were.. but on the ground right now.. It is a bad 30B debt.
Jam starts from Safaricom nowdays and lasts 1-2hours as was 5years ago.

Back to Konza.. I hope Matiang'i will communicate what is happening soon enough.
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#98 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:23:52 PM
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@pound, Thika Rd was very good in the first few months. Then we all bought cars which we all want to drive to work. Traffic jam problem is unlikely to be sorted by expansion of road and rail networks as we will still buy more cars for daily drives to work
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#99 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:25:35 PM
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@jokes, i like your point....
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murchr
#100 Posted : Saturday, February 08, 2014 5:30:44 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
a4architect.com wrote:
@jokes, the thika road project was feasible from all points of view hence taking the 10 years from concept to completion.
For Konza, no matter which angle any one wants to look at it, there is just no justification . Konza will grow naturally just as all towns frow. Growth starts from CBD then radiates to Athi river then Machakos junction /Machakos town then to Konza then to Makindu all the way to Mombasa in the next 50 to 100 years or so. This growth tends to follow the road/rilway hence it will be along the mombasa road and only branches towards Machakos because of the exisiting machakos infrastructure.

For Konza to jump all the empty undeveloped spaces between Athi river and Machakos junction, i dont see the possibility in the near 10 to 15 years. The growth at Konza will just have to follow this pattern.


Thika road feasible? maybe the initial designs and plans were.. but on the ground right now.. It is a bad 30B debt.
Jam starts from Safaricom nowdays and lasts 1-2hours as was 5years ago.

Back to Konza.. I hope Matiang'i will communicate what is happening soon enough.


What Matiang'i will not tell you is that people feel that this project should have been in Thika so thats where the bureaucracy problem is coming from.
Konza city dev plan is no different from what Mutua is planning in Mks just that the latter is in small scale.

Those who have had the privilege of travelling will tell you that Konza is a replica of other developments elsewhere, tho in a small scale. I will get a bit personal, between where i work and where i live i can count more than 15 IT related companies that have their offices set up for the obvious reason of infrastructure(Cable, both fiber & electric are underground thus downtimes are minimal, in simple terms hakuna wizi wa mafuta ya transformer ama wire za simu etc). Apart frm tht, there are apartments, normal shops (clothing, restaurants of all kinds, hotels, banks, discos, amusement parks etc) People rarely leave to do anything elsewhere. Ndemo has traveled he knows what he was advocating for, just that its hard for people who havent experienced it to understand. B4 i left Nai, i always thot there was nothing else better out there.

architects descriptions of how towns and cities should come up or evolve is a description of how eastlands came to be, the mess that is Nrb today. An exhibit of lack of planning. The last time planning happened in Nrb was when mzungu was at the helm. I guess the African never got to understand the concept.

Who knows what the population limit of Nrb is?

Now to Thika rd. See how infrastructure draws a population, people moved from other parts of the city & they went to that part of town. Lack of planning again is causing a mess. Cities and towns should have a population limit, and one way of doing this is defining the purpose of the city/town. I have been to areas just set for medical purposes. A cancer center, university, normal hospitals, nursing homes, a pharmaceutical, rehab center etc. Kinda like how upperhill (the area where theres KNH NBR hosp Doc plaza, etc ) in summary, zoning
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