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guru267 wrote:If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid? And do you have any comments on the fact that they had pangas and knives in the same mosque, which were also used to attack on the police? Now that the flag was just praising God, mark you with guns draw on it(I cant read Arabic, but I can positively identify a drawing of a gun), which part of the praise requires crude weapon in a prayer house?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Someone give me Kimaiyo's job even though i have no experience with guns.That though wouldn't stop me from dispatching this terrorists to they maker until wherever they are going runs out of virgins! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Coolio wrote:guru267 wrote:Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??
With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God! Praising God with an AK 47???? One could imaging a drawing of a koran or even a minaret would be true to the claim. Don't hold your breath.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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When some militants tried this in their most holy mosque in Saudi Arabia. The Pakistani Special Forces dealt with them ruthlessly. That is the only language they understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_SeizureIt is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:guru267 wrote:If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid? And do you have any comments on the fact that they had pangas and knives in the same mosque, which were also used to attack on the police? Now that the flag was just praising God, mark you with guns draw on it(I cant read Arabic, but I can positively identify a drawing of a gun), which part of the praise requires crude weapon in a prayer house? Is it illegal to own pangas and knives which may have been used in self defense?? Is it illegal to have a picture of a gun??? In places like the UK the police would have absolutely no case here and I am tempted to think the same will apply in Kenya! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:washiku wrote:guru267 wrote:If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid? And do you have any comments on the fact that they had pangas and knives in the same mosque, which were also used to attack on the police? Now that the flag was just praising God, mark you with guns draw on it(I cant read Arabic, but I can positively identify a drawing of a gun), which part of the praise requires crude weapon in a prayer house? Is it illegal to own pangas and knives which may have been used in self defense?? Is it illegal to have a picture of a gun??? In places like the UK the police would have absolutely no case here and I am tempted to think the same will apply in Kenya! most of the terrorism cases can not stand in the kawaida courts - thats why even the superpowers have that ka place in cuba. the idea is to terrorize them and hit them where it hurts most.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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guru267 wrote:washiku wrote:guru267 wrote:If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid? And do you have any comments on the fact that they had pangas and knives in the same mosque, which were also used to attack on the police? Now that the flag was just praising God, mark you with guns draw on it(I cant read Arabic, but I can positively identify a drawing of a gun), which part of the praise requires crude weapon in a prayer house? Is it illegal to own pangas and knives which may have been used in self defense?? Is it illegal to have a picture of a gun??? In places like the UK the police would have absolutely no case here and I am tempted to think the same will apply in Kenya! Again, the usual burying of the head in the sand. If the picture of a gun is on the flag of the terrorist organization that admitted carrying out the Westgate massacre, and continues to threaten more such attacks on Kenyan soil, even your role models in the UK would shut the place down so quickly regardless of the cost. If the pangas are held by the same institution or their sympathizers, the reaction in the US would have been of a lockdown with SWAT teams kicking ass like there is no tomorrow. I really want to see Mr Freedom take a more robust approach to tackling these idiots just as Bush had to resort to Guantanamo and drones. There simply is no reasoning with them. People such as @guru think the AKs and pangas are ok in a place of worship. Clearly the more radicalized fellows must think using the pangas and AKs is an act of worship. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Quote:The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims has condemned the use of some mosques in Mombasa for what it terms as criminal activities. Supkem Secretary-General Adan Wachu chastised youths who were flushed out of the Masjid Mussa on Sunday saying “Islam is not terrorism.” “The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims is shocked by the utter illegality, criminality and un-Islamic actions by marauding youths in Mussa mosque in Mombasa. “We are unable to say the brand of faith they represent and in that regard, we completely disown them,” Mr Wachu said in a statement. The Muslim leader said it is wrong for places of worship to be used for criminal activities. http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/18nm8k/-/index.html
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Swenani wrote:Quote:The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims has condemned the use of some mosques in Mombasa for what it terms as criminal activities. Supkem Secretary-General Adan Wachu chastised youths who were flushed out of the Masjid Mussa on Sunday saying “Islam is not terrorism.” “The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims is shocked by the utter illegality, criminality and un-Islamic actions by marauding youths in Mussa mosque in Mombasa. “We are unable to say the brand of faith they represent and in that regard, we completely disown them,” Mr Wachu said in a statement. The Muslim leader said it is wrong for places of worship to be used for criminal activities. http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/18nm8k/-/index.html
GOOD, NO TAKING SIDES WITH THE CRIMINAL YOUTH HERE. "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Swenani wrote:Quote:The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims has condemned the use of some mosques in Mombasa for what it terms as criminal activities. Supkem Secretary-General Adan Wachu chastised youths who were flushed out of the Masjid Mussa on Sunday saying “Islam is not terrorism.” “The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims is shocked by the utter illegality, criminality and un-Islamic actions by marauding youths in Mussa mosque in Mombasa. “We are unable to say the brand of faith they represent and in that regard, we completely disown them,” Mr Wachu said in a statement. The Muslim leader said it is wrong for places of worship to be used for criminal activities. http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/18nm8k/-/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:Swenani wrote:Quote:The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims has condemned the use of some mosques in Mombasa for what it terms as criminal activities. Supkem Secretary-General Adan Wachu chastised youths who were flushed out of the Masjid Mussa on Sunday saying “Islam is not terrorism.” “The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims is shocked by the utter illegality, criminality and un-Islamic actions by marauding youths in Mussa mosque in Mombasa. “We are unable to say the brand of faith they represent and in that regard, we completely disown them,” Mr Wachu said in a statement. The Muslim leader said it is wrong for places of worship to be used for criminal activities. http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/18nm8k/-/index.html
I expected the Wazua Muslims to issue similar statements!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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guru267 wrote:washiku wrote:guru267 wrote:If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid? And do you have any comments on the fact that they had pangas and knives in the same mosque, which were also used to attack on the police? Now that the flag was just praising God, mark you with guns draw on it(I cant read Arabic, but I can positively identify a drawing of a gun), which part of the praise requires crude weapon in a prayer house? Is it illegal to own pangas and knives which may have been used in self defense?? Is it illegal to have a picture of a gun??? In places like the UK the police would have absolutely no case here and I am tempted to think the same will apply in Kenya! Yes it is illegal, go read the law and stop exposing your ignorant bias "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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McReggae wrote:washiku wrote:Swenani wrote:Quote:The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims has condemned the use of some mosques in Mombasa for what it terms as criminal activities. Supkem Secretary-General Adan Wachu chastised youths who were flushed out of the Masjid Mussa on Sunday saying “Islam is not terrorism.” “The Supreme Council of Kenya Muslims is shocked by the utter illegality, criminality and un-Islamic actions by marauding youths in Mussa mosque in Mombasa. “We are unable to say the brand of faith they represent and in that regard, we completely disown them,” Mr Wachu said in a statement. The Muslim leader said it is wrong for places of worship to be used for criminal activities. http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/18nm8k/-/index.html
I expected the Wazua Muslims to issue similar statements!!!! This thing would die quite quickly were the so called moderate Muslims to cooperate with security agencies to weed out the radicals. But as someone says, even the Wazua muslims are silent. Kudos however to those who have condemned these actions. Please up the game and let the security agencies know who is planning these kind of things Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Mombasa, Kenya: Police in Mombasa say it may take them two months to sift through the treasure trove of information seized from the controversial Musa Mosque after Sunday’s violent clashes. Sources told The Standard investigators are sifting through documents and analysing electronic information seized from militants after the deadly clashes with a group reportedly attending a jihadist convention. And preliminary reports indicate the material has valuable information reports indicate the material has valuable information that could be used to uncover terror suspects. A top security official warned that more raids on other mosques would follow adding that police have a right to storm any place where they suspect a crime is being committed. Reports also emerged that the crier of the nearby and equally controversial Sakina Mosque was among those killed in Sunday’s raid Read more at: http://www.standardmedia...ms-from-mosque?pageNo=1
and THE government yesterday said it was considering shutting down two mosques in Mombasa following Sunday's clash between Muslim youth and police. Muslim leaders yesterday claimed that five were killed in the violence, not two as reported by the police. They accused police of using excessive force to arrest the youth who were allegedly holding jihad classes. Uneasy calm returned to most parts of Mombasa yesterday, except for sporadic violence in a few areas such as Majengo, Guraya and Gulshan in the morning. Yesterday 125 youth who were arrested on Sunday were arraigned in court and were remanded until February 7 to allow police to complete their investigations. - See more at: http://the-star.co.ke/ne...ue#sthash.T7hhUmIL.dpuf
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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I think this guys wanted to be caught. Govt should be careful as I see this as diversionary tactics. Honestly, who puts up 3 Shabaab flags up at the highest point while you are trying to be secretive? Something is not right here.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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2012 wrote:I think this guys wanted to be caught. Govt should be careful as I see this as diversionary tactics.
Honestly, who puts up 3 Shabaab flags up at the highest point while you are trying to be secretive? Something is not right here. I had the same feeling. Somehow, this sounds like it was a decoy. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Why are we wasting time with terrorist mosques?KDF should bomb the Masjid mosque and later convert it to a pigsty to teach them a lesson.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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mawinder wrote:Why are we wasting time with terrorist mosques?KDF should bomb the Masjid mosque and later convert it to a pigsty to teach them a lesson. Lol 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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washiku wrote:mawinder wrote:Why are we wasting time with terrorist mosques?KDF should bomb the Masjid mosque and later convert it to a pigsty to teach them a lesson. Lol  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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2012 wrote:I think this guys wanted to be caught. Govt should be careful as I see this as diversionary tactics.
Honestly, who puts up 3 Shabaab flags up at the highest point while you are trying to be secretive? Something is not right here. Lemme guess ,,,,,,,,,,,, ummmmmm ,,,,,,,,,, not a very bright person ,,,,,,,,,, ? No?
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