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Masjid Musa Mosque Mombasa
sparkly
#51 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 1:41:10 AM
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Coolio wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

Praising God with an AK 47????


The youths being shot at are barely out of their teens. They are as Kenyan as you and I. Why would they agree to go to Somalia, risk death, kill their brothers and sisters? To get 72 virgins, i dont think so. Just like the Mungiki menace and others like it the coastal youth are driven by social economic forces- education, employment, resources. These are the issues the govt should be addressing. Shooting clerics and youths in Mosques will not solve it but will breed more and more radicalisation.
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Tokyo
#52 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 1:51:11 AM
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Imported religions at it again. Many are slaves to their ideologies
work to prosper
radio
#53 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:33:35 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Coolio wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

Praising God with an AK 47????


The youths being shot at are barely out of their teens. They are as Kenyan as you and I. Why would they agree to go to Somalia, risk death, kill their brothers and sisters? To get 72 virgins, i dont think so. Just like the Mungiki menace and others like it the coastal youth are driven by social economic forces- education, employment, resources. These are the issues the govt should be addressing. Shooting clerics and youths in Mosques will not solve it but will breed more and more radicalisation.


Kwani coast youth are the only youth faced by these challenges?

Should all poor youths join radical groupings and pick arms?

Mungiki was crushed! Wembe ni ulele!

@jguru, what is written on the flag, is BS! Didn't they storm into Westgate shouting praises to Allah?
murchr
#54 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:35:45 AM
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radio wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Coolio wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

Praising God with an AK 47????


The youths being shot at are barely out of their teens. They are as Kenyan as you and I. Why would they agree to go to Somalia, risk death, kill their brothers and sisters? To get 72 virgins, i dont think so. Just like the Mungiki menace and others like it the coastal youth are driven by social economic forces- education, employment, resources. These are the issues the govt should be addressing. Shooting clerics and youths in Mosques will not solve it but will breed more and more radicalisation.


Kwani coast youth are the only youth faced by these challenges?

Should all poor youths join radical groupings and pick arms?

Mungiki was crushed! Wembe ni ulele!

@jguru, what is written on the flag, is BS! Didn't they storm into Westgate shouting praises to Allah?


@guru Alshabab means the youth. And yes even matakwei was crushed.
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radio
#55 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:47:31 AM
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My sincere apologies to @jguru. I meant to address @guru267.
dunkang
#56 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 5:06:58 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

What God, and for what?
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

Njung'e
#57 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 6:40:04 AM
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Omar Hassan and that Nasser boy are idiots to believe that Muslims have a monopoly to violence.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Robinhood
#58 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:00:46 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Coolio wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

Praising God with an AK 47????


The youths being shot at are barely out of their teens. They are as Kenyan as you and I. Why would they agree to go to Somalia, risk death, kill their brothers and sisters? To get 72 virgins, i dont think so. Just like the Mungiki menace and others like it the coastal youth are driven by social economic forces- education, employment, resources. These are the issues the govt should be addressing. Shooting clerics and youths in Mosques will not solve it but will breed more and more radicalisation.


If they shoot at the GSU, what should the GSU do? Quietly take their dead colleagues to the morgue and come back with an offer for jobs? I really dislike this apologist argument for what is essentially criminality. Same argument was advanced to justify Mungiki crimes. Ati lack of jobs, education... What crap!! We have people who have no jobs in the rest of the country, but they do not advocate the killing of their neighbors or the police in the name of religion, nor do they keep AK47s in churches

These are the spiritual children of Ishmael, and violence is their middle name
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
guru267
#59 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:37:38 AM
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If the guns belonged to the police why exactly did the police raid the masjid?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Muriel
#60 Posted : Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:40:31 AM
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Robinhood wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Coolio wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Does anyone here even know what the words on the "al shabaab" flag mean??

With my little Arabic knowledge the flags were simply praising God!

Praising God with an AK 47????


The youths being shot at are barely out of their teens. They are as Kenyan as you and I. Why would they agree to go to Somalia, risk death, kill their brothers and sisters? To get 72 virgins, i dont think so. Just like the Mungiki menace and others like it the coastal youth are driven by social economic forces- education, employment, resources. These are the issues the govt should be addressing. Shooting clerics and youths in Mosques will not solve it but will breed more and more radicalisation.


If they shoot at the GSU, what should the GSU do? Quietly take their dead colleagues to the morgue and come back with an offer for jobs? I really dislike this apologist argument for what is essentially criminality. Same argument was advanced to justify Mungiki crimes. Ati lack of jobs, education... What crap!! We have people who have to jobs in the rest of the country, but they do not advocate the killing of their neighbors or the police in the name of religion, nor do they keep AK47s in churches

These are the spiritual children of Ishmael, and violence is their middle name



Yes.

This tormenting, scorpion-like character they possess is not ethnic or race based.

Anyone with 'it' becomes like 'that'.

The ones who aren't are 'apostate'.
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