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VituVingiSana
#141 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:57:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
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obiero wrote:
Here are the full year 2013 PBT figures:
Roar 18.9B
Equity 18.6B
SCBK 13.2
COOP 12.6B
BBK 12.45B



@Obiero where is the exchange bar forecast for the insurance sector? Britam,CIC,Liberty,Pan Africa and Jubilee....thanks in advance(hoping you shall get them).

@mibbz sorry. i dont have reliable insiders in that financial sub sector..



All the same thanks for the good work on the banks; just wondering what do you think of co-op in 2014 considering they were doing a joint venture with Government of South Sudan and considering the current condition; shall the management retain more earnings to back up existing capital in this venture thus less dividends or?

Coop shall weather the South Sudan storm and will actually post highest increase for banks as per results the forecast. Major advantage is that its operations were relatively young

Coop had not invested much in SS so it lucked out vs Equity or KCB. Perhaps, when things calm down in SS, Coop can start expanding aggressively with the help of its fellow shareholder... GOSS
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VituVingiSana
#142 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:01:23 PM
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obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
Here are the full year 2013 PBT figures:
Roar 18.9B
Equity 18.6B
SCBK 13.2
COOP 12.6B
BBK 12.45B



@Obiero where is the exchange bar forecast for the insurance sector? Britam,CIC,Liberty,Pan Africa and Jubilee....thanks in advance(hoping you shall get them).

@mibbz sorry. i dont have reliable insiders in that financial sub sector..



All the same thanks for the good work on the banks; just wondering what do you think of co-op in 2014 considering they were doing a joint venture with Government of South Sudan and considering the current condition; shall the management retain more earnings to back up existing capital in this venture thus less dividends or?

Coop shall weather the South Sudan storm and will actually post highest increase for banks as per results the forecast. Major advantage is that its operations were relatively young

Coop had not invested much in SS so it lucked out vs Equity or KCB. Perhaps, when things calm down in SS, Coop can start expanding aggressively with the help of its fellow shareholder, the Govt of South Sudan!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#143 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:56:36 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
Here are the full year 2013 PBT figures:
Roar 18.9B
Equity 18.6B
SCBK 13.2
COOP 12.6B
BBK 12.45B



@Obiero where is the exchange bar forecast for the insurance sector? Britam,CIC,Liberty,Pan Africa and Jubilee....thanks in advance(hoping you shall get them).

@mibbz sorry. i dont have reliable insiders in that financial sub sector..



All the same thanks for the good work on the banks; just wondering what do you think of co-op in 2014 considering they were doing a joint venture with Government of South Sudan and considering the current condition; shall the management retain more earnings to back up existing capital in this venture thus less dividends or?

Coop shall weather the South Sudan storm and will actually post highest increase for banks as per results the forecast. Major advantage is that its operations were relatively young

Coop had not invested much in SS so it lucked out vs Equity or KCB. Perhaps, when things calm down in SS, Coop can start expanding aggressively with the help of its fellow shareholder, the Govt of South Sudan!

Amen :)

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#144 Posted : Sunday, January 19, 2014 11:43:08 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
mibbz wrote:
obiero wrote:
Here are the full year 2013 PBT figures:
Roar 18.9B
Equity 18.6B
SCBK 13.2
COOP 12.6B
BBK 12.45B



@Obiero where is the exchange bar forecast for the insurance sector? Britam,CIC,Liberty,Pan Africa and Jubilee....thanks in advance(hoping you shall get them).

@mibbz sorry. i dont have reliable insiders in that financial sub sector..



All the same thanks for the good work on the banks; just wondering what do you think of co-op in 2014 considering they were doing a joint venture with Government of South Sudan and considering the current condition; shall the management retain more earnings to back up existing capital in this venture thus less dividends or?

Coop shall weather the South Sudan storm and will actually post highest increase for banks as per results the forecast. Major advantage is that its operations were relatively young

Coop had not invested much in SS so it lucked out vs Equity or KCB. Perhaps, when things calm down in SS, Coop can start expanding aggressively with the help of its fellow shareholder, the Govt of South Sudan!

Amen :)



whats your view on SCBK;is 400 within sight esp with expected results?
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#145 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:10:21 PM
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BBK FY13 results coming up on Thus, 6 February 2014
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#146 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:21:21 PM
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Car & General touches 37.5 bob.... Applause
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#147 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 1:53:28 AM
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Car & General touches 37.5 bob.... Applause
Small quantities. That said, if the firm can get its act together and expand into the rural areas, at a reasonable cost, there is a great future.
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obiero
#148 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:49:49 AM
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reporting season now in sight.. patiently waiting for coop bank breakout

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#149 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:59:37 AM
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obiero wrote:
reporting season now in sight.. patiently waiting for coop bank breakout


I noticed you changed your 19bob KQ target date from March 2014 to the results announcement day?? Sad
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#150 Posted : Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:21:22 PM
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guru267 wrote:
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reporting season now in sight.. patiently waiting for coop bank breakout


I noticed you changed your 19bob KQ target date from March 2014 to the results announcement day?? Sad

yes. virtually guaranteed by results announcement, but do not be shocked if it happens earlier

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#151 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2014 10:13:09 AM
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Dont be surprised if hfck sets the pace this week.
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#152 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2014 5:23:18 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
BBK FY13 results coming up on Thus, 6 February 2014

KCB's coming up on Thus, 27th February 2014
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#153 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2014 7:58:12 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
BBK FY13 results coming up on Thus, 6 February 2014

KCB's coming up on Thus, 27th February 2014

cheers for the head's up

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#154 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 6:55:00 PM
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Wikileaks; Kenyan Banking Sector Performance

For the year 2013, the Kenyan Banking Sector recorded continued growth. Some of the sector’s performance indicators are as follows:

• The aggregate balance sheet increased by 16.17 percent from Kshs 2.35 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 2.73 trillion in December 2013.
• Gross loans expanded by 17.65 percent from Kshs 1.36 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.60 trillion in December 2013.
• Deposits grew by 12.50 percent from Kshs 1.76 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.98 trillion in December 2013.
• Total shareholders’ funds increased by 18.91 percent from Kshs 362.86 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 431.49 billion in December 2013.
• Total income increased by 1.53 percent from Kshs 352.52 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 357.90 billion in December 2013 while total expenses decreased by 4.71 percent from Kshs 244.84 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 233.32 billion in December 2013.
• Interest income on loans fell by 3.57% in 2013 to Kshs 211.19 billion down from Kshs 219.01 billion in 2012. This is a reflection of declining lending rates in 2013.
• Interest expenses on deposits fell by 27.38 % to Kshs 72.13 billion in 2013 down from Kshs 99.32 billion in 2012. This is attributable to a decline in the cost of deposits in 2013.
• Unaudited pre-tax profits stood at Kshs 107.68 billion for 31st December 2012 compared to Kshs 124.57 billion for 31st December 2013 recording an increase of 16.89 per cent.

The growth in banking sector was accompanied by an upsurge in credit risk with the gross non-performing loans increasing by 30.91 percent from Kshs 61.56 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 80.59 billion in December 2013.

https://www.centralbank.go.ke/im..._THE_YEAR_ENDED_2013.pdf
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VituVingiSana
#155 Posted : Thursday, January 30, 2014 11:33:39 PM
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Not even 20% growth in PBT... Some banks are going to report a rough 2013. And so in 2014, expect some 'consolidation' i.e. reduction in staff, slowdown in new branch openings, slower EAC expansion... and some Capital Raising... including Rights Issues & Bonds.
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#156 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 10:57:51 AM
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#157 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 12:19:25 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Wikileaks; Kenyan Banking Sector Performance

For the year 2013, the Kenyan Banking Sector recorded continued growth. Some of the sector’s performance indicators are as follows:

• The aggregate balance sheet increased by 16.17 percent from Kshs 2.35 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 2.73 trillion in December 2013.
• Gross loans expanded by 17.65 percent from Kshs 1.36 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.60 trillion in December 2013.
• Deposits grew by 12.50 percent from Kshs 1.76 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.98 trillion in December 2013.
• Total shareholders’ funds increased by 18.91 percent from Kshs 362.86 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 431.49 billion in December 2013.
• Total income increased by 1.53 percent from Kshs 352.52 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 357.90 billion in December 2013 while total expenses decreased by 4.71 percent from Kshs 244.84 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 233.32 billion in December 2013.
• Interest income on loans fell by 3.57% in 2013 to Kshs 211.19 billion down from Kshs 219.01 billion in 2012. This is a reflection of declining lending rates in 2013.
• Interest expenses on deposits fell by 27.38 % to Kshs 72.13 billion in 2013 down from Kshs 99.32 billion in 2012. This is attributable to a decline in the cost of deposits in 2013.
• Unaudited pre-tax profits stood at Kshs 107.68 billion for 31st December 2012 compared to Kshs 124.57 billion for 31st December 2013 recording an increase of 16.89 per cent.

The growth in banking sector was accompanied by an upsurge in credit risk with the gross non-performing loans increasing by 30.91 percent from Kshs 61.56 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 80.59 billion in December 2013.

https://www.centralbank.go.ke/im..._THE_YEAR_ENDED_2013.pdf


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#158 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2014 7:10:23 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Wikileaks; Kenyan Banking Sector Performance

For the year 2013, the Kenyan Banking Sector recorded continued growth. Some of the sector’s performance indicators are as follows:

• The aggregate balance sheet increased by 16.17 percent from Kshs 2.35 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 2.73 trillion in December 2013.
• Gross loans expanded by 17.65 percent from Kshs 1.36 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.60 trillion in December 2013.
• Deposits grew by 12.50 percent from Kshs 1.76 trillion in December 2012 to Kshs 1.98 trillion in December 2013.
• Total shareholders’ funds increased by 18.91 percent from Kshs 362.86 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 431.49 billion in December 2013.
• Total income increased by 1.53 percent from Kshs 352.52 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 357.90 billion in December 2013 while total expenses decreased by 4.71 percent from Kshs 244.84 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 233.32 billion in December 2013.
• Interest income on loans fell by 3.57% in 2013 to Kshs 211.19 billion down from Kshs 219.01 billion in 2012. This is a reflection of declining lending rates in 2013.
• Interest expenses on deposits fell by 27.38 % to Kshs 72.13 billion in 2013 down from Kshs 99.32 billion in 2012. This is attributable to a decline in the cost of deposits in 2013.
• Unaudited pre-tax profits stood at Kshs 107.68 billion for 31st December 2012 compared to Kshs 124.57 billion for 31st December 2013 recording an increase of 16.89 per cent.

The growth in banking sector was accompanied by an upsurge in credit risk with the gross non-performing loans increasing by 30.91 percent from Kshs 61.56 billion in December 2012 to Kshs 80.59 billion in December 2013.

https://www.centralbank.go.ke/im..._THE_YEAR_ENDED_2013.pdf


Ma bad.. smile (previous post).

thanks comrade

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mwekez@ji
#159 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:01:44 AM
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@VVS, +17% is good run rate. May the market tell ;)
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#160 Posted : Saturday, February 01, 2014 11:33:59 AM
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@VVS, +17% is good run rate. May the market tell ;)
We have been spoilt by +30% in the recent past
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