These are not kids like some of you would want us to believe....the police are not expected to treat the university students the same way the would treat High school kids.

life is too short to blend in

@nanfor

You seem to suggest other people here have shallow arguments? What is wrong with dressing decently? Why do organisations have dress codes? Some so stiff that ladies can not work without their jackets on..... Until recently,bankers wore uniforms - literally.... Airlines still do. these students are not even being asked to wear UNIFORMS just (as leona said) to wear CLOTHES..... Is that so hard to understand? You dont have to be christian,muslim,hindu or at all religious for your to be decent........do you? How deep is the argument about wearing indecently,advocating for violence directed to innocent motorists or even other students,to justifying burning down of the same learning resources that the student are going to need for their education which their parents are paying through the nose for? and which has taken the institution so long to build? Are these the future leaders we are hoping for? do they understand how many students are going to graduate these few months while they are at home and who will be fighting for the few jobs in the market? someone said that the university students behave as if the university is a destination and he was very right..... they arent there for ever. even if they are not happy with the management,they should see it as a transit point and focus on their goals... ati you burn a whole building and IT Centre coz of 1000 bob!! And we are expected to understand how 'not' shallow their grievances are?????

No one is saying students have to be mistreated,but was that the only channel they had address their grievances?

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.

Well said that we should learn from the experienced. I went to a public University and this I know:


A university student is a guest at the university for a very short time. One should make maximum use of this time in productive ways such as building friends and connections (these are invaluable once you graduate),testing your limits within legal bounds (dress as you wish,drink till 6.30 a.m.,date the impossibles,espouse radical views including support for lost political and social causes,change religion,) but by all means study for the course you enrolled. Your potential is limitless.
The world out here is harsher than any VC. The bosses,the landlords,the traffic cop- all exercising some form of authority over you. There is no solution to be found in tackling problems 'out here' with violence. And as someone said,everything you do has consequences. It is strange that one hardly remembers any serious grudge with the university administration as you do with family,friends over the years.
Those student leaders are basically stupid loud mouths and agents of political causes and forces that have little to do with being a university student. Good leadership at the university is rare and is to be found in other areas such as religious bodies,profession-oriented groups (e.g. AISEC,engineering student bodies etc) and not the umbrella leaders. These umbrella leaders will be your MPs who at the university were merely practising how to incite,charge and basically hoodwink less learned people,who must be easier.
Approach your being a student as an opportunity rather than with a sense of entitlement. Those facilities have taken generations to put up. It might be the only place you get facilities at such subsidized costs. 'Out here' one earns and pays for everything they got.
Whether you are taking a walk from 'modern green night club' or the girls hostels,or from any gathering,avoid the police- they are decent without uniform and are our brothers and sisters but when at work,pen and paper is not their tool of trade,their brains is not the most active part of their body and they have a particular allergy for university students that sends them into convulsions of violence.
While at it,ji-enjoy. Man,university should be fun.

That the universities are supposed to produce intellectuals to drive our vision of ever becoming a developed country. The same shallow minds who will see nothing wrong with burning dormitiries they sleep in and the library in the cumpus . Was this meant to punish the VC. Imagine you had a company and KU is you main source of work force. would you not fear that one day they will burn the company or its toilets in the pretext of fighting for their rights. WE ARE PRODUCING LEARNED FOOLS

muthuri mwanake

the university has been functioning well without a dress code,same with other universities world wide. so why try to force one. ku is not a work place,where you apply for a job,and therefore you agree to the dress code

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@ Kasheshi,you simply don't get it.

You choose to condemn the students for burning the dorm = effect

I choose to condemn the university management for negligence = cause

Btn the 2 of us who is addressing facts and who is witch hunting.


I guess if you can't win with facts,you can always pen bile-laced,xenophobic rants to distract everyone.

I've heard you loud and clear now answer this question without beating about the bush. Once you leave campus and join the real world and are confronted with real life problems,are these the same methods you'll use to address your grievances?

R

Haven't bothered to read all the threads but one thing for sure,if you attended a public university (moreso as a regular student) you'll identify with the Comrades at KU. Whats with the dresscode?? If you need one go to Baraton,Daystar etc or any religious based universities that bears semblance to High school.

COMRADE POWER!!!! Ra! Ra!

A few years ago,if a woman wore pants she was indecently dressed and was going to get a public beating. This decency thing is as holier than thou argument as you will ever get. It is used by rapists who say that the woman was provoking them. It does not pass muster. If you want to control how people dress,I suggest you talk to your own children and not mine.

The Vice Chancellor of Kenyatta University is not the fashion police. If she is then she should join mungiki and al queda. I am sure they will find proper use for her.

Do not pretend that the students woke up one morning and decided to go burn buildings with nothing provoking them.

The reason could have been stupid or legitimate. It depends on your point of view. If you are the admin it is stupid. If you are a student,it was legitimate.

The question you should be asking is what was the admin doing to quell something which anyone knew was going to blow up? She was issuing more rules. Guys,these are not sheep you are dealing with. If she does not know the basics of human behavior then she should not be there. She reminds me of someone else who I will not mention on this thread.

Someone's child is dead today after your vaunted police decided to shoot all those who do not dress decently,or those against the VC. I will not be shocked to learn that the said student was nowhere near the hooligans that started all this. All that the VC apologists are talking about is a building and computers. I guess now the dead student equals the buildings as per these arguments.

If Mbithi could stand up during Moi's era and stop students from rioting,kweli what is this woman? She is a failure and you can abuse me as much as you wish but she is. She has a direct hand in everything that has happened in that campus the past few days.

To make things worse,she is a liar. I for one do not pretend to be so saved that I cannot see a liar when I see one. She is not fit to lead that campus and no amount of making the students the only devils in all this will change that. She lied to the parents of that student that their son was safe. She is a liar.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me exactly what scientific evidence anyone on SK has come up with that shows that dressing 'decently',being in the NYS,sexually molesting students,expelling students,and even killing some of them will forever stop student riots in universities in Kenya.

and now the woman is saying that THE had something to do with the strike.......lhuyu mwanamke ameshindwa job......PERIOD!!!

Make money.....then you will enjoy all the fine things in life!!!