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MKWASI
#31 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2014 8:32:59 AM
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I'm just disturbed apparent lack of research by our Fourth Estate. The headlines in the dailies, their comments on social media shows some ignorance on some core issues. Sometimes am unable to distinguish their comments and the pedestrian talk. Where are our journalists trained and how is their curricular or is it their trainers? Some of them demonstrate fanatical following or are die-hards for certain politicians. Are journalists not supposed to be objective, no direct political affliations/ persuasions and tribal bigotry? Are there professional ethics for our fourth estate?





Being the first to break 'News' over the weekend attest to this fact.
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tycho
#32 Posted : Monday, January 27, 2014 8:49:36 AM
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Blame it on the rise of the 'mass man'.
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murchr
#33 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:29:34 AM
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Its now 1 year and some months since the county governments went live. You would have expected some "jonalist" would be running a program on Telly showcasing the achievements of devolution highlighting county by county showing strengths and weaknesses...but instead the "jonalist" of today has become a minions of politician. Is it that they lack mentors? Wouldn't Kenyans want to know why those clans in Wajir dont want to be part of Mandera and vice-versa?

Anyone with details of how revenue was collected in the counties?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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innairobi
#34 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:13:36 AM
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murchr wrote:
Its now 1 year and some months since the county governments went live. You would have expected some "jonalist" would be running a program on Telly showcasing the achievements of devolution highlighting county by county showing strengths and weaknesses...but instead the "jonalist" of today has become a minions of politician. Is it that they lack mentors? Wouldn't Kenyans want to know why those clans in Wajir dont want to be part of Mandera and vice-versa?

Anyone with details of how revenue was collected in the counties?

All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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innairobi
#35 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:25:32 AM
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Here was another one. They read the 2013 Economic Survey and thought the 2009 rebased numbers were referring to Kenya's 2013 GDP.

Size of Kenyan economy shrinks to Sh2.8 trillion in new calculations
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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wanyee
#36 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:21:15 AM
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innairobi wrote:
Here was another one. They read the 2013 Economic Survey and thought the 2009 rebased numbers were referring to Kenya's 2013 GDP.

Size of Kenyan economy shrinks to Sh2.8 trillion in new calculations

His last name betrays himLaughing out loudly
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murchr
#37 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:19:25 PM
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innairobi wrote:



murchr wrote:
Its now 1 year and some months since the county governments went live. You would have expected some "jonalist" would be running a program on Telly showcasing the achievements of devolution highlighting county by county showing strengths and weaknesses...but instead the "jonalist" of today has become a minions of politician. Is it that they lack mentors? Wouldn't Kenyans want to know why those clans in Wajir dont want to be part of Mandera and vice-versa?

Anyone with details of how revenue was collected in the counties?



Is this the collection?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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innairobi
#38 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:59:28 PM
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They are estimates from the Controller of Budget as per the 2013 Economic Survey. Maybe they were taken from county's own projections in county budgets? Not sure if data on actual collection has been made available to the public.


murchr wrote:
innairobi wrote:


murchr wrote:
Its now 1 year and some months since the county governments went live. You would have expected some "jonalist" would be running a program on Telly showcasing the achievements of devolution highlighting county by county showing strengths and weaknesses...but instead the "jonalist" of today has become a minions of politician. Is it that they lack mentors? Wouldn't Kenyans want to know why those clans in Wajir dont want to be part of Mandera and vice-versa?

Anyone with details of how revenue was collected in the counties?



Is this the collection?

All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
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kiash
#39 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:12:22 PM
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murchr wrote:
Its now 1 year and some months since the county governments went live. You would have expected some "jonalist" would be running a program on Telly showcasing the achievements of devolution highlighting county by county showing strengths and weaknesses...but instead the "jonalist" of today has become a minions of politician. Is it that they lack mentors? Wouldn't Kenyans want to know why those clans in Wajir dont want to be part of Mandera and vice-versa?

Anyone with details of how revenue was collected in the counties?



Actually not that i always watch BBC ,CNN and all but i have always liked something about their documentaries. I had thought of something before elections like getting to a constituency and seeing what the local MP has done since he/she was elected. This could have been done very well going down to the mashinanis and have the locals say what has been done and witness it for themselves(journalists) I think there was Nimrod Taabu did a short doc on news about some arid area in the north and the piece was nominated for an award. Guys like Ouko Kusa who always report from mashinani can do something serious about Kisumu (i know he does even some hilairous pieces). We are tired of watching stuff on politics about Nairobi and accidents. I thought they would change after stations like K24 appeared but i guess they did the poaching of fake journalists and the chain continues.
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murchr
#40 Posted : Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:42:10 PM
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^^^Indeed, its as if theres a contest to outdo each other on who does the most rediculous piece of news and yes Ouko Okusa does the best reports in Nyanza/western, very hillarious.

Some of the reports are just a waste of time non conclusive and very poor in presentation of facts
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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