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Famine again in Turkana.
Swenani
#21 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 4:09:25 PM
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washiku wrote:
And what has the county government there done this far?



Famine is a national govt and not a county govt dutysmile smile smile smile smile smile

I think Turkana county should be suspended or dissolved
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washiku
#22 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 4:12:41 PM
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Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
And what has the county government there done this far?



Famine is a national govt and not a county govt dutysmile smile smile smile smile smile

I think Turkana county should be suspended or dissolved


Really? Whichever way I hope they are not sitted somewhere watching their people die as they do nothing.
washiku
#23 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 4:19:08 PM
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jaggernaut
#24 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 4:21:38 PM
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washiku wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
And what has the county government there done this far?



Famine is a national govt and not a county govt dutysmile smile smile smile smile smile

I think Turkana county should be suspended or dissolved


Really? Whichever way I hope they are not sitted somewhere watching their people die as they do nothing.

Turkana also got the lion's share of county govt funds. They should do something about the famine.
Angelica _ann
#25 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 4:35:31 PM
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Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
And what has the county government there done this far?



Famine is a national govt and not a county govt dutysmile smile smile smile smile smile

I think Turkana county should be suspended or dissolved


Like seriously Laughing out loudly
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#26 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 5:29:45 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Swenani wrote:
washiku wrote:
And what has the county government there done this far?



Famine is a national govt and not a county govt dutysmile smile smile smile smile smile

I think Turkana county should be suspended or dissolved


Like seriously Laughing out loudly


Yes seriously.

Or the governor should be impeached like the one for Embu. On Tuesday next week Embu MCA's might just kick Mr.Wabora out.
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#27 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 5:39:15 PM
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and that is why I have been accumulating parcels in Kajiado huko kichakani.

with land in Kiamgu going into real Estate. Nariobi will be fed from the semi Arid areas.
Rankaz13
#28 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 8:10:17 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
How have the Turkana people survived for hundreds of years in their environment, and how come they are no longer able to survive in the recent past due to the frequent devastating famines? Surely no one was giving them relief food in 1700AD.

Maybe reconstructing their lifestyle and how they coped in their environment in the ancient times could be the key to solving the hunger problem now and in the future.


Nditto, that question needs to be asked and answered satisfactorily before we move forward. Let's not make the mistake of assuming we know what they need and then going ahead to prescribe our own tailor-made 'solutions.'

I'm told of a place in Moyale county (exact name escapes me) where a certain NGO came and established an irrigation scheme. You know what the locals have done? Instead of taking to farming as was expected, the bulk of them simply abandoned the place and moved elsewhere leaving only a few in the disused facility. I'm informed that recently Kamaus, Mwangis and other 'wabara' have moved in to make use of the idle irrigated land.

One more thing: whereas droughts are natural occurences, famines are more often than not, man-made. I have lived in some of the perennially famine-stricken regions of this country and the one thing I always noted was that despite people starving to death in the villages, there was always food available in the local markets, albeit more expensive. In my opinion, famine isn't so much a problem of lack of food but rather a problem of lack of (stable) household incomes. We fix that and we shall be home and dry.

And finally, infrastructure. The sooner we fix this the better. We all recall how in the last time milk as well as other fresh farm produce were going to waste in places such as Mwea, Kijabe while our Turkana kin were starving at the same time. Yaani, the deficiency in infrastructure (principally, motorable roads) introduces market deficiencies where some have too much while others lack. I am of the opinion that if Turkana was well connected to the rest of the country by road, they would hardly starve. We'd buy the animals from them and in turn take food to them.

Just my opinions...
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washiku
#29 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 8:43:09 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
How have the Turkana people survived for hundreds of years in their environment, and how come they are no longer able to survive in the recent past due to the frequent devastating famines? Surely no one was giving them relief food in 1700AD.

Maybe reconstructing their lifestyle and how they coped in their environment in the ancient times could be the key to solving the hunger problem now and in the future.


Nditto, that question needs to be asked and answered satisfactorily before we move forward. Let's not make the mistake of assuming we know what they need and then going ahead to prescribe our own tailor-made 'solutions.'

I'm told of a place in Moyale county (exact name escapes me) where a certain NGO came and established an irrigation scheme. You know what the locals have done? Instead of taking to farming as was expected, the bulk of them simply abandoned the place and moved elsewhere leaving only a few in the disused facility. I'm informed that recently Kamaus, Mwangis and other 'wabara' have moved in to make use of the idle irrigated land.

One more thing: whereas droughts are natural occurences, famines are more often than not, man-made. I have lived in some of the perennially famine-stricken regions of this country and the one thing I always noted was that despite people starving to death in the villages, there was always food available in the local markets, albeit more expensive. In my opinion, famine isn't so much a problem of lack of food but rather a problem of lack of (stable) household incomes. We fix that and we shall be home and dry.

And finally, infrastructure. The sooner we fix this the better. We all recall how in the last time milk as well as other fresh farm produce were going to waste in places such as Mwea, Kijabe while our Turkana kin were starving at the same time. Yaani, the deficiency in infrastructure (principally, motorable roads) introduces market deficiencies where some have too much while others lack. I am of the opinion that if Turkana was well connected to the rest of the country by road, they would hardly starve. We'd buy the animals from them and in turn take food to them.

Just my opinions...


Well put sir.
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#30 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2014 9:23:51 PM
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i like your thoughts rankaz. But it should be Marsabit county
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