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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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As in if Rudisha earns 100 million in the Golden league lazima aRudishe 30 million to Jubree gaament!  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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As long as hey are not subjected to double taxation.Some of those countries where they compete in have very mean KRAs. Eg French President Hollande wants to tax top earners 75% tax rate so if you earn 1 m they swallow 750,000 and you remain with only 250,0000.How now? It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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How special are they not to pay taxes?
If they [athletes] think they do me a favor by competing,how about they hang those boots!
Wapi @murchr awaambie "kulipa ushuru ni kujitegemea"?.
But then again, what prize money qualifies for taxation?
If one wins say London marathon and they are taxed in the UK, it would be double taxation to charge anything on that prize money.
Which leaves us with the likes of Ndakaini marathon,KPL and endorsements.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110
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Tax them.
Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/25/2013 Posts: 552 Location: Asgard
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I say NO unless that money was made locally
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year.  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Machozi and Sang are still paying tax in Kenya even huko mayuu ndio yao kwa sasa!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/28/2013 Posts: 16
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Athletes,just like anyone else earning their income as a resident in Kenya should pay taxes. It may seem a huge demand to ask them pay a tidy sum of the millions they earn.But the rate applicable is still 30% as is the case with anyone else. If they are not for it,as @mkeiy says,let them hang their boots. On the other hand, I must have read and believe as well that KRA will take/takes into account taxes paid overseas so as to avoid the issue of double taxation. But proof for such taxes paid overseas has to be provided.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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magic huru wrote:Athletes,just like anyone else earning their income as a resident in Kenya should pay taxes. It may seem a huge demand to ask them pay a tidy sum of the millions they earn.But the rate applicable is still 30% as is the case with anyone else. If they are not for it,as @mkeiy says,let them hang their boots. On the other hand, I must have read and believe as well that KRA will take/takes into account taxes paid overseas so as to avoid the issue of double taxation. But proof for such taxes paid overseas has to be provided.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Tax is paid where earnings are made. You make your money majuu, you pay tax majuu. NOT here in Kenya. Athletes monies from majuu should NOT be taxed. PERIOD!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Machozi and Sang are still paying tax in Kenya even huko mayuu ndio yao kwa sasa!!!! Which government pays their salary / wages?Netherlands,NO? Sang' grows some wheat in the Tundras? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Machozi and Sang are still paying tax in Kenya even huko mayuu ndio yao kwa sasa!!!! Which government pays their salary / wages?Netherlands,NO?Sang' grows some wheat in the Tundras? Now you are talking, who pays the athletes the prize money.....Kenyan garment? NO!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:jaggernaut wrote:All Kenyans pay 30% tax from earnings from their careers/occupations. Why should athletes be exempted? Kenyans in the diaspora....do they pay? The gaarment should stop this otoyo behaviour!!!! Kenyans in dayaspola live there hapo mayuu, they dont use our roads or public toilets while hawa kina Kip-whatever use our roads for over 99% of a year. Flawed reasoning there if you ask me!!! Why do people pay tax? If you can answer this then you may see my angle. Machozi and Sang are still paying tax in Kenya even huko mayuu ndio yao kwa sasa!!!! Which government pays their salary / wages?Netherlands,NO?Sang' grows some wheat in the Tundras? Now you are talking, who pays the athletes the prize money.....Kenyan garment? NO!!!! So basi wasilipwe TAX. PERIOD. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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if you have already paid kaisari huko sioni maana ya kulipa kaisari hapa! mark you these guys can always run for Qatar! bila taxation then some people here will start saying 'gava is not doing enough to retain talent' they will still train here, use our roads, live on 'our' land e.t.c. so be wise! akina Moha wa UK si anashindanga hapa akikimbia? hata yule mkale wa UG? so be wise!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:if you have already paid kaisari huko sioni maana ya kulipa kaisari hapa! mark you these guys can always run for Qatar! bila taxation then some people here will start saying 'gava is not doing enough to retain talent' they will still train here, use our roads, live on 'our' land e.t.c. so be wise! akina Moha wa UK si anashindanga hapa akikimbia? hata yule mkale wa UG? so be wise!! Yeah they all train, these athlete invest most of that money they have outside hapa Kenya, gaarment iwachane nao!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/17/2007 Posts: 1,345
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Saa zingine ni uwivu tu. No wazuan will agree to be taxed huko majuu and then come back and be taxed again. It's that simple.
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