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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,369 Location: Nairobi
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Horton wrote:
FOR ALL THE KENYAN INVESTORS:With all these new acquisitions, I encourage Kenyans to patronize our HOME GROWN BRAND! Why go to other carriers and that money paid doesn't come back to the economy? PROUDLY KENYAN!
I was like you. Always picked KQ. Then I discovered better, cheaper airlines! 1) The food on Qatar is much better than KQ. 2) The stop in AMS is not as comfy [or cheap] as Doha or Abu Dhabi though KQ flew me to AUH for a connection flight on Etihad. 3) Turkish was substantially cheaper for me v Skyteam [not to mention the IFE was awesome IST-NBO and the food was very tasty!] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Horton wrote:
FOR ALL THE KENYAN INVESTORS:With all these new acquisitions, I encourage Kenyans to patronize our HOME GROWN BRAND! Why go to other carriers and that money paid doesn't come back to the economy? PROUDLY KENYAN!
I was like you. Always picked KQ. Then I discovered better, cheaper airlines! 1) The food on Qatar is much better than KQ. 2) The stop in AMS is not as comfy [or cheap] as Doha or Abu Dhabi though KQ flew me to AUH for a connection flight on Etihad. 3) Turkish was substantially cheaper for me v Skyteam [not to mention the IFE was awesome IST-NBO and the food was very tasty!] VVS from ur statements above, I see that u really like food 😄 WIth increased competition with the entry of SKYCHEFS, I brlieve good will get better. Infact, it has gotten better of late. The B777 are being retro'd new IFEs. The synergies are coming together and we should BE PROUD OF KQ. Let me tell you about my first share purchase in KQ, it was in 2003 at an average of 7bob. Sold later at 84 a year or 2 later. Airline business is cyclical. KQ has already been to the valley, i now looking at the the trough. We should proudly support a brand that makes us a different story compared to our neighbors. Apart from Kenya, Only Ethiopia, South Africa, Tunisia & Egypt can boast of such connectivity in Africa
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 5,121
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Mindspeak: Aly-Khan Satchu Hosts Kenya Airways CEO – Dr. Titus Naikuni, Jan. 25 2014 http://www.rich.co.ke/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:New kid in the block 787 dreamliner landing soon, looks like the 777-300, interior. But I wish they'd cut the number and acquire 777-X too The 787s are being delivered. The 777-X will take some time before deliveries start. See the delays in the 787 delivery schedule. It's better to have a 777-300 today then not have any planes tomorrow! KQ is using tired 767s while waiting for the 787s... And this has hurt them. 773 is not as fuel efficient as 77X hence my preference to 77X and yes the 767 is a guzzler. I wonder why KQ doesnt like the A380? I haven't heard any landing in Nrb either. KQ chose Boeing over Airbus years ago. And JKIA cannot handle A380. A380 also requires a facility near JKIA where it can land in the event JKIA was shut for any reason. Closest is Oliver Tambo, meaning they have to carry 4 hours extra fuel. (I don't know if Bole can handle A380). And also, can JKIA generate enough pax to make it a profit maker, and if so, which route?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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Del. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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Gordon Gekko wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:New kid in the block 787 dreamliner landing soon, looks like the 777-300, interior. But I wish they'd cut the number and acquire 777-X too The 787s are being delivered. The 777-X will take some time before deliveries start. See the delays in the 787 delivery schedule. It's better to have a 777-300 today then not have any planes tomorrow! KQ is using tired 767s while waiting for the 787s... And this has hurt them. 773 is not as fuel efficient as 77X hence my preference to 77X and yes the 767 is a guzzler. I wonder why KQ doesnt like the A380? I haven't heard any landing in Nrb either. KQ chose Boeing over Airbus years ago. And JKIA cannot handle A380. A380 also requires a facility near JKIA where it can land in the event JKIA was shut for any reason. Closest is Oliver Tambo, meaning they have to carry 4 hours extra fuel. (I don't know if Bole can handle A380). And also, can JKIA generate enough pax to make it a profit maker, and if so, which route? @GG, thought Ethiopia was building an airport that can handle A380-800 and it was commissioned in July 2013. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,369 Location: Nairobi
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@GG the year round profitable route [full of pax] would be be Lagos - NBO - HKG ... the rest, I am not sure of! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Angelica _ann wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:murchr wrote:New kid in the block 787 dreamliner landing soon, looks like the 777-300, interior. But I wish they'd cut the number and acquire 777-X too The 787s are being delivered. The 777-X will take some time before deliveries start. See the delays in the 787 delivery schedule. It's better to have a 777-300 today then not have any planes tomorrow! KQ is using tired 767s while waiting for the 787s... And this has hurt them. 773 is not as fuel efficient as 77X hence my preference to 77X and yes the 767 is a guzzler. I wonder why KQ doesnt like the A380? I haven't heard any landing in Nrb either. KQ chose Boeing over Airbus years ago. And JKIA cannot handle A380. A380 also requires a facility near JKIA where it can land in the event JKIA was shut for any reason. Closest is Oliver Tambo, meaning they have to carry 4 hours extra fuel. (I don't know if Bole can handle A380). And also, can JKIA generate enough pax to make it a profit maker, and if so, which route? @GG, thought Ethiopia was building an airport that can handle A380-800 and it was commissioned in July 2013. @Angelica _ann, thanks. See my post again. Bole is the airport in Addis 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/30/2007 Posts: 1,558 Location: Nairobi
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@GG alternate airport for A380, just requires PCN sufficient. Note that Entebbe can accommodate the An-225 and so can Nairobi. The only issue is the twin jet bridges for pax to plane/deplane.
But it's really only EK that could bring in a 380 so making it pointless to make the bridges.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,369 Location: Nairobi
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Though @Horton let's not confuse Investment vs "Patriotism" vs Value. And a glaring omission is the lack of ownership in KQ by KQ's Board, CEO, CFO, Pilots, Employees, etc Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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