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Money Whisperer
#41 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:39:41 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Keter does not have the right facts...There may be some fishy stuff going on but i don't think it is that scary. The distance from Nairobi to Msa is around 490 km or thereabouts. The rail will have a length of around 690 km or thereabouts. Somebody asking why there is an addition of 200km is just being dumb! This is a very good project which should go on unimpeded. People should not read politics in everything.


Question i ask is WHERE THE HELL DID THE 1.3T FIGURE COME FROM? It was well highly quoted when this thing started. then all of a sudden it died down. now we are talking of 327B

now Mombasa to nbi is 490km quoted is 690km.. the quote per KM takes into consideration labour, altitude, etc etc..
engineer says the extra 200 Km will go into exchanges (that place where they mugithis salimiana and pass). meaning we are going to do another journey halfway from NBI to MBS...200km on fukken exchanges?

I would presume most of the exchange line will be in MBS and NBI there will be atleast 70km of rail laid for exchanges in both towns.. can somebody to the maths on land needed to lay such rail..
with factors like
average length of exchanges is X km
dist btn exchange rails is 5m

If most of you are kenyans and know how to eat..You will agree with me... hapo ndo mkulo iko not 400B but iko

Don't let engineer radisson blu confuse you with those specs. raise the track to give animals space and bla bla but how many kilometers is that? I heard him explain that the sand has to be dug up somewhere and transported to the site bla bla but how much does that factor into the cost. eng radisson blu confuses you with specs and technicals then you lose your focus
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kiash
#42 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:41:47 PM
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Joined: 4/27/2010
Posts: 951
Location: Nyumbani
poundfoolish wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Keter does not have the right facts...There may be some fishy stuff going on but i don't think it is that scary. The distance from Nairobi to Msa is around 490 km or thereabouts. The rail will have a length of around 690 km or thereabouts. Somebody asking why there is an addition of 200km is just being dumb! This is a very good project which should go on unimpeded. People should not read politics in everything.


Question i ask is WHERE THE HELL DID THE 1.3T FIGURE COME FROM? It was well highly quoted when this thing started. then all of a sudden it died down. now we are talking of 327B

now Mombasa to nbi is 490km quoted is 690km.. the quote per KM takes into consideration labour, altitude, etc etc..
engineer says the extra 200 Km will go into exchanges (that place where they mugithis salimiana and pass). meaning we are going to do another journey halfway from NBI to MBS...200km on fukken exchanges?

I would presume most of the exchange line will be in MBS and NBI there will be atleast 70km of rail laid for exchanges in both towns.. can somebody to the maths on land needed to lay such rail..
with factors like
average length of exchanges is X km
dist btn exchange rails is 5m

If most of you are kenyans and know how to eat..You will agree with me... hapo ndo mkulo iko not 400B but iko



This confirms my fear. Why do we have to build a one lane rail in this age ? i think Keter had said sometimes back that the Ethipoia Railway is double lane or do you call it gauge. Now this exchange Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you this is Kenya, we see how trains gongana elsewhere despite the double track, ngonja mpaka the conductor says the signals failed and the train left the exchange zinakutana huko mbele and @ a speed of 120Pray Pray
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#43 Posted : Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:45:37 PM
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Posts: 728
Location: Wazuaville
kiash wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Keter does not have the right facts...There may be some fishy stuff going on but i don't think it is that scary. The distance from Nairobi to Msa is around 490 km or thereabouts. The rail will have a length of around 690 km or thereabouts. Somebody asking why there is an addition of 200km is just being dumb! This is a very good project which should go on unimpeded. People should not read politics in everything.


Question i ask is WHERE THE HELL DID THE 1.3T FIGURE COME FROM? It was well highly quoted when this thing started. then all of a sudden it died down. now we are talking of 327B

now Mombasa to nbi is 490km quoted is 690km.. the quote per KM takes into consideration labour, altitude, etc etc..
engineer says the extra 200 Km will go into exchanges (that place where they mugithis salimiana and pass). meaning we are going to do another journey halfway from NBI to MBS...200km on fukken exchanges?

I would presume most of the exchange line will be in MBS and NBI there will be atleast 70km of rail laid for exchanges in both towns.. can somebody to the maths on land needed to lay such rail..
with factors like
average length of exchanges is X km
dist btn exchange rails is 5m

If most of you are kenyans and know how to eat..You will agree with me... hapo ndo mkulo iko not 400B but iko



This confirms my fear. Why do we have to build a one lane rail in this age ? i think Keter had said sometimes back that the Ethipoia Railway is double lane or do you call it gauge. Now this exchange Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you this is Kenya, we see how trains gongana elsewhere despite the double track, ngonja mpaka the conductor says the signals failed and the train left the exchange zinakutana huko mbele and @ a speed of 120Pray Pray

the more I read about this railway the more I fear that it is not just inflated cost but shoddy quality. Ethiopians will have electric trains while zetu ni za dithoro, sema moshi
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Impunity
#44 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 7:54:59 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
kiash wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Keter does not have the right facts...There may be some fishy stuff going on but i don't think it is that scary. The distance from Nairobi to Msa is around 490 km or thereabouts. The rail will have a length of around 690 km or thereabouts. Somebody asking why there is an addition of 200km is just being dumb! This is a very good project which should go on unimpeded. People should not read politics in everything.


Question i ask is WHERE THE HELL DID THE 1.3T FIGURE COME FROM? It was well highly quoted when this thing started. then all of a sudden it died down. now we are talking of 327B

now Mombasa to nbi is 490km quoted is 690km.. the quote per KM takes into consideration labour, altitude, etc etc..
engineer says the extra 200 Km will go into exchanges (that place where they mugithis salimiana and pass). meaning we are going to do another journey halfway from NBI to MBS...200km on fukken exchanges?

I would presume most of the exchange line will be in MBS and NBI there will be atleast 70km of rail laid for exchanges in both towns.. can somebody to the maths on land needed to lay such rail..
with factors like
average length of exchanges is X km
dist btn exchange rails is 5m

If most of you are kenyans and know how to eat..You will agree with me... hapo ndo mkulo iko not 400B but iko



This confirms my fear. Why do we have to build a one lane rail in this age ? i think Keter had said sometimes back that the Ethipoia Railway is double lane or do you call it gauge. Now this exchange Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you this is Kenya, we see how trains gongana elsewhere despite the double track, ngonja mpaka the conductor says the signals failed and the train left the exchange zinakutana huko mbele and @ a speed of 120Pray Pray


That in blue, is the fundamental question I have always wanted to ask, thanks for asking it.
In this age of speed travel you cant manage with single track!!!!!!

Jubilee sycophnats here doesnt understand the railway technology at all, mind you most of people talking here have never boarded a train here in Kenya or majuu in a place like France.

Its two lane track or nothing else, soon enough the single track will be obsolete; mark my word!

Operating a single a single track requires very complicated signalling system as the trains must wait for each other at stations in order to tupitana na ingine.

There can be only one train between tow "adjacent" stations!

A faster train like the passenger one cannot overtake the slower moving cargo train until they reach some stations in between.

When one train derails, the track is closed until motherf*cker notice. This is the worst point.

Who will advice those "experts" at the ministry?

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Rankaz13
#45 Posted : Friday, January 17, 2014 9:25:48 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/21/2013
Posts: 2,841
Location: Here
Impunity wrote:
kiash wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Magigi wrote:
Keter does not have the right facts...There may be some fishy stuff going on but i don't think it is that scary. The distance from Nairobi to Msa is around 490 km or thereabouts. The rail will have a length of around 690 km or thereabouts. Somebody asking why there is an addition of 200km is just being dumb! This is a very good project which should go on unimpeded. People should not read politics in everything.


Question i ask is WHERE THE HELL DID THE 1.3T FIGURE COME FROM? It was well highly quoted when this thing started. then all of a sudden it died down. now we are talking of 327B

now Mombasa to nbi is 490km quoted is 690km.. the quote per KM takes into consideration labour, altitude, etc etc..
engineer says the extra 200 Km will go into exchanges (that place where they mugithis salimiana and pass). meaning we are going to do another journey halfway from NBI to MBS...200km on fukken exchanges?

I would presume most of the exchange line will be in MBS and NBI there will be atleast 70km of rail laid for exchanges in both towns.. can somebody to the maths on land needed to lay such rail..
with factors like
average length of exchanges is X km
dist btn exchange rails is 5m

If most of you are kenyans and know how to eat..You will agree with me... hapo ndo mkulo iko not 400B but iko



This confirms my fear. Why do we have to build a one lane rail in this age ? i think Keter had said sometimes back that the Ethipoia Railway is double lane or do you call it gauge. Now this exchange Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you this is Kenya, we see how trains gongana elsewhere despite the double track, ngonja mpaka the conductor says the signals failed and the train left the exchange zinakutana huko mbele and @ a speed of 120Pray Pray


That in blue, is the fundamental question I have always wanted to ask, thanks for asking it.
In this age of speed travel you cant manage with single track!!!!!!

Jubilee sycophnats here doesnt understand the railway technology at all, mind you most of people talking here have never boarded a train here in Kenya or majuu in a place like France.

Its two lane track or nothing else, soon enough the single track will be obsolete; mark my word!

Operating a single a single track requires very complicated signalling system as the trains must wait for each other at stations in order to tupitana na ingine.

There can be only one train between tow "adjacent" stations!

A faster train like the passenger one cannot overtake the slower moving cargo train until they reach some stations in between.

When one train derails, the track is closed until motherf*cker notice. This is the worst point.

Who will advice those "experts" at the ministry?

Sad Sad Sad


Kanaendelea kunuka:

Importers oppose cargo guarantee plan.

How legal is this? Is this the international best practice elsewhere?


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