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ARIEL SHARON FINALLY DIES
Kratos
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:40:37 PM
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This story has intrigued me for the longest time. According to the Guinness book of world records there is this girl/lady who fell into a coma at age 6 and only died at age 43. Though she never woke up i fear what would have been had she ever woken up from her slumber.

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
Rankaz13
#12 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:42:00 PM
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Ole Lenku wrote:
murchr wrote:
I hope he has suffered enough tho its not enough to pay for the killings and displacements he caused. Do you know that the first offer of making an Israeli state was the 13000 sqkm Mau Plateau?

Who offered?


Long time since I came across that story. I suppose the offer must've been made by the colonial gov't.
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murchr
#13 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:51:26 PM
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Rankaz13 wrote:
Ole Lenku wrote:
murchr wrote:
I hope he has suffered enough tho its not enough to pay for the killings and displacements he caused. Do you know that the first offer of making an Israeli state was the 13000 sqkm Mau Plateau?

Who offered?


Long time since I came across that story. I suppose the offer must've been made by the colonial gov't.


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The offer was first made by British Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain to Theodore Herzl's Zionist group in 1903. He offered 5,000 square miles (13,000 km2) of the Mau Plateau in what is today Kenya. The area was thought suitable because of its temperate hill station-like climate and its relative isolation, being surrounded by the Mau Forest. The offer was a response to pogroms against the Jews in Russia, and it was hoped the area could be a refuge from persecution for the Jewish people.

The idea was brought to the Zionist Congress at its sixth meeting in 1903 in Basel. There a fierce debate ensued. The African land was described as an "ante-chamber to the Holy Land" and a Nachtasyl (temporary night shelter), but other groups felt that accepting the offer would make it more difficult to establish a Jewish state in Ottoman Palestine, and also that the Jewish nation would not be able to claim itself as native to that land, since there were no historic or culture links between the Hebrews and East Africa. Before the vote on the matter, the Russian delegation stormed out in opposition. By a remaining vote of 295 to 177, it was decided to send an "investigatory commission" on expedition to examine the territory proposed.

The next year a three-man delegation was sent to inspect the plateau. Its high elevation gave it a temperate climate, making it suitable for European settlement. However, the observers found a dangerous land filled with lions and other creatures. Moreover, although it was sparsely populated by small bands of Maasai (themselves having recently conquered the Sirikwa tribe), the Maasai were hostile to other tribes and outsiders.

After receiving this report, the following Congress in 1905 decided to politely decline the British offer. Some Jews viewed this as a mistake; they then split from the ZO and established the Jewish Territorialist organization, with the explicit aim of establishing a Jewish state anywhere, not just in Palestine. A few Jews did move to Kenya, but most settled in the urban centres. Some of these families remain to this day.


Now you know. But trust me, if they did it they'd be extinct by now.
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Ole Lenku
#14 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:24:25 PM
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To some he was a war hero while to others he was a criminal. The invasion of Lebanon almost landed him to the ICC and earned him the nickname the butcher of Beirut. Almost three thousand Palestinians were killed and he was culpable. His role in the war of Yom Kippur against Egypt made many see him as a war hero. His bravery and strategic thinking saved Israel from possible annihilation by Egypt.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:42:33 PM
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Yes, Britain had those plans. It would have saved them from death in the holocaust but changed the future of east africa
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:15:59 AM
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By coincidence,i am reading Patrick Seale's book, "Abu Nidal:A gun for hire".The things some of the Israeli's (Sharon,Shamir,Golda Meir) leadership perpetuated against Palestinians and even their own, are unforgivable.
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Tokyo
#17 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:57:11 AM
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He was dedicated to serving His people
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Wainadi
#18 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:51:26 AM
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Who are the sirikwa tribe?
Its all good.
kivairu
#19 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:22:49 PM
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He was a general of war, he died a general of peace!

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#20 Posted : Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:20:16 PM
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