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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022. Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc. Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:Nov world cup in the middle of season, going until Jan to the transfer window!
Sepp must have been paid well by the arab slavemasters for this one... These guys put money before any reason, it's such a shame!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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KulaRaha wrote:This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022.
Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc.
Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? FIFA is as corrupt as can be but so far they are not worried coz its the English FA and the Premier League that is making all the noise(coz England was denied the 2018 WC). If the other FAs start complaining then they would be worried. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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KulaRaha wrote:This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022.
Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc.
Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? You need to remember that its UEFA's President Michel Platini who came up with the idea of a winter WC in Qatar so the idea of a break away is almost out of question. The English are the only ones who have strongly rejected the proposal but no one really likes them so they'll just have to prepare accordingly once its passed. "I will say something to the English. We respect your calendar for 150 years - for one month in 150 years you can change," Platini, 58, said. http://www.dailymail.co....022-World-Cup-ahead.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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TAZ wrote:KulaRaha wrote:This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022.
Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc.
Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? You need to remember that its UEFA's President Michel Platini who came up with the idea of a winter WC in Qatar so the idea of a break away is almost out of question. The English are the only ones who have strongly rejected the proposal but no one really likes them so they'll just have to prepare accordingly once its passed. "I will say something to the English. We respect your calendar for 150 years - for one month in 150 years you can change," Platini, 58, said. http://www.dailymail.co....22-World-Cup-ahead.html @Taz, you forget that though the World Cup takes place over one month, preparations before and reconditioning after can mean the whole World Cup period takes up 3 months. If you think it's only England who'll have an issue, you are mistaken. All European leagues whose calendar starts from August to May will have been affected drastically. So si mambo na no one really likes England so they'll have to prepare accordingly. The clubs may fancy playing in winter because of the health dangers of their players, nothing else. But the leagues, ole wao. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Blatter made sure he ate 2 worldcups on the same day. I pitty is predecesor, nothing to eat until 2026. Anyway regardless, it is plain wrong what they did because weather/climate and condusiveness (sp) was part of the bidding process. Wacha Australia FA will sue their a**es. Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Jus Blazin wrote:TAZ wrote:KulaRaha wrote:This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022.
Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc.
Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? You need to remember that its UEFA's President Michel Platini who came up with the idea of a winter WC in Qatar so the idea of a break away is almost out of question. The English are the only ones who have strongly rejected the proposal but no one really likes them so they'll just have to prepare accordingly once its passed. "I will say something to the English. We respect your calendar for 150 years - for one month in 150 years you can change," Platini, 58, said. http://www.dailymail.co....22-World-Cup-ahead.html @Taz, you forget that though the World Cup takes place over one month, preparations before and reconditioning after can mean the whole World Cup period takes up 3 months. If you think it's only England who'll have an issue, you are mistaken. All European leagues whose calendar starts from August to May will have been affected drastically. So si mambo na no one really likes England so they'll have to prepare accordingly. The clubs may fancy playing in winter because of the health dangers of their players, nothing else. But the leagues, ole wao. Quote:Europe's leading clubs have accepted that the 2022 World Cup in Qatar could be moved from its usual summer slot if it is on a one-off. The European Clubs' Association (ECA) chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge has given their position by saying it is 'better to play it in winter'. That will leave the Premier League's opposition to any move looking increasingly isolated with even new Football Association chairman Greg Dyke favouring a switch despite the disruption Read more: http://www.dailymail.co....head.html#ixzz2pt8OnWka
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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@Jus Blazin....I believe the implications of a winter WC are clear to all parties involved, its a matter of adjusting the league dates. Its not written in stone ati all leagues have to start in August and end in May, besides they all have more than 7 years to do that. The English will kama kawaida be left pekee yao because they still have issues with FIFA kwanza after being denied the chance to host the 2018 WC. Btw the owners of the clubs are usually the ones who call the shots in those European leagues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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bkismat wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:TAZ wrote:KulaRaha wrote:This is the perfect opp for the big FAs to break away from Fifa and form their own so they can have a summer tournament in 2022.
Imagine a World Cup without Argentina, England, Brazil, Italy, France etc.
Who will watch Qatar vs Burkina faso? You need to remember that its UEFA's President Michel Platini who came up with the idea of a winter WC in Qatar so the idea of a break away is almost out of question. The English are the only ones who have strongly rejected the proposal but no one really likes them so they'll just have to prepare accordingly once its passed. "I will say something to the English. We respect your calendar for 150 years - for one month in 150 years you can change," Platini, 58, said. http://www.dailymail.co....22-World-Cup-ahead.html @Taz, you forget that though the World Cup takes place over one month, preparations before and reconditioning after can mean the whole World Cup period takes up 3 months. If you think it's only England who'll have an issue, you are mistaken. All European leagues whose calendar starts from August to May will have been affected drastically. So si mambo na no one really likes England so they'll have to prepare accordingly. The clubs may fancy playing in winter because of the health dangers of their players, nothing else. But the leagues, ole wao. Quote:Europe's leading clubs have accepted that the 2022 World Cup in Qatar could be moved from its usual summer slot if it is on a one-off. The European Clubs' Association (ECA) chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge has given their position by saying it is 'better to play it in winter'. That will leave the Premier League's opposition to any move looking increasingly isolated with even new Football Association chairman Greg Dyke favouring a switch despite the disruption Read more: http://www.dailymail.co....head.html#ixzz2pt8OnWka
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook I read the article @bkismat. It's better off for the clubs because of their players' health. Not that they are okay with it. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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TAZ wrote:@Jus Blazin....I believe the implications of a winter WC are clear to all parties involved, its a matter of adjusting the league dates. Its not written in stone ati all leagues have to start in August and end in May, besides they all have more than 7 years to do that. The English will kama kawaida be left pekee yao because they still have issues with FIFA kwanza after being denied the chance to host the 2018 WC. Btw the owners of the clubs are usually the ones who call the shots in those European leagues. Adjustments of dates is not as easy as you think. Three seasons plus will be affected, including domestic cup matches and European championships, including continental club football. That's why it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for FIFA coz they can't admit they made a mistake. Even AFCON 2023 will be affected, not forgetting the shift in qualifying rounds. Don't look at it as an England issue. It's bigger than that. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Jus Blazin wrote:TAZ wrote:@Jus Blazin....I believe the implications of a winter WC are clear to all parties involved, its a matter of adjusting the league dates. Its not written in stone ati all leagues have to start in August and end in May, besides they all have more than 7 years to do that. The English will kama kawaida be left pekee yao because they still have issues with FIFA kwanza after being denied the chance to host the 2018 WC. Btw the owners of the clubs are usually the ones who call the shots in those European leagues. Adjustments of dates is not as easy as you think. Three seasons plus will be affected, including domestic cup matches and European championships, including continental club football. That's why it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for FIFA coz they can't admit they made a mistake. Even AFCON 2023 will be affected, not forgetting the shift in qualifying rounds. Don't look at it as an England issue. It's bigger than that. Copy that!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2009 Posts: 2,375
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Jus Blazin wrote:TAZ wrote:@Jus Blazin....I believe the implications of a winter WC are clear to all parties involved, its a matter of adjusting the league dates. Its not written in stone ati all leagues have to start in August and end in May, besides they all have more than 7 years to do that. The English will kama kawaida be left pekee yao because they still have issues with FIFA kwanza after being denied the chance to host the 2018 WC. Btw the owners of the clubs are usually the ones who call the shots in those European leagues. Adjustments of dates is not as easy as you think. Three seasons plus will be affected, including domestic cup matches and European championships, including continental club football. That's why it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for FIFA coz they can't admit they made a mistake. Even AFCON 2023 will be affected, not forgetting the shift in qualifying rounds. Don't look at it as an England issue. It's bigger than that. But as long as ist only the Engish FA keep shouting it will look like that. All the other powerful FA(Germany,Italy Spain etc) will sufer the same but they are trying to work out something about it, after all they still have 8 years of planning. FIFA may be doing this the wrong way but they want all parts of the world to enjoy the hosting of the WC. It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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I dont have a problem with Qatar as much as I have a problem with Russia. There football is thoroughly racist. Some teams even have a policy of not signing blacks. Qatar is problematic as well because of their labor laws which border on slavery.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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bkismat wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:TAZ wrote:@Jus Blazin....I believe the implications of a winter WC are clear to all parties involved, its a matter of adjusting the league dates. Its not written in stone ati all leagues have to start in August and end in May, besides they all have more than 7 years to do that. The English will kama kawaida be left pekee yao because they still have issues with FIFA kwanza after being denied the chance to host the 2018 WC. Btw the owners of the clubs are usually the ones who call the shots in those European leagues. Adjustments of dates is not as easy as you think. Three seasons plus will be affected, including domestic cup matches and European championships, including continental club football. That's why it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for FIFA coz they can't admit they made a mistake. Even AFCON 2023 will be affected, not forgetting the shift in qualifying rounds. Don't look at it as an England issue. It's bigger than that. But as long as ist only the Engish FA keep shouting it will look like that. All the other powerful FA(Germany,Italy Spain etc) will sufer the same but they are trying to work out something about it, after all they still have 8 years of planning. FIFA may be doing this the wrong way but they want all parts of the world to enjoy the hosting of the WC. All parties (including England) are in agreement that the WC should not be held in June/July so one way or another the English FA WILL have to adjust the EPL schedule. FIFA and UEFA control almost all major football competitions so once its agreed that WC will be held in Nov then the necessary adjustments will be done. I honestly don't think England, Spain, Germany or Italy have a choice here.......apart from England all the other major federations are already warming up to the idea! It will affect so many things but it somehow has to be done. IMO I think the English FA should support the move because wakiendelea hivyo they won't host the WC in a long time.....some of these federations can be really influential when it comes to picking the host. http://www.worldsoccer.c...nter-world-cup-in-Qatar
http://www.sport360.com/...-january-qatar-world-cup
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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@bkismat and @Taz, the problem with you is you think this is an English problem. But so as to appeal to you, England aren't wrong in opposing. During December when most leagues have taken a winter break is usually one of the busiest periods in the English calendar, bar the Easter period. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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The row at Fifa over the timing of the 2022 World Cup intensified on Thursday after Michel Platini accused Sepp Blatter and Jerome Valcke of disrespecting their own executive committee. Platini, the Uefa president and Fifa vice-president, condemned the latter’s president and secretary general for their repeated public pronouncements indicating the tournament in Qatar would be moved to November or December. The latest of those was delivered on French radio by Valcke on Wednesday, prompting an angry response from Fifa’s British vice-president, Jim Boyce, who insisted the decision over any switch lay with the governing body’s ExCo. Platini, who could stand against Blatter for the Fifa presidency in 2015, was even more nonplussed, telling L’Equipe: “When the executive committee was held in early October, it was decided to launch a major consultation of all football and no decision would be taken before the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. It was also agreed not to talk about this before then. “I do not see why it is discussed publicly. Two months ago, Blatter spoke about it. Now it’s Valcke. This is supposed to be a decision for the executive committee of Fifa. But maybe the executive committee doesn’t matter. If the decision has already been taken then it does not even need to meet, except for those people who enjoy chatting.” Platini has admitted voting for Qatar to host the tournament and has long campaigned for a winter switch due to the extreme summer temperatures there. He added: “We have to consult the entire football family before making a decision.” ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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"UEFA's 54 member countries have voted in favour of switching the 2022 World Cup in Qatar from summer to winter, even though the rest of European football has reservations. The associations have told the president of Europe's governing body Michel Platini they would prefer the competition to be held in January so it does not clash with the Champions League. European football clubs, leagues and players unions are also opposed to the Qatar World Cup being played in the summer. But some, like the English Premier League, are also against a winter move because of the massive disruption it would cause to the football calendar..........Uefa chief Platini, who says he voted for Qatar, is among those in favour of a change, suggesting that January-February would be the best time even though this could clash with the 2022 Winter Olympics."
@Jus Blazin.....I hope now you understand why i'm on England's case, they seem to be the only federation which is not in favour of a winter world cup the rest shida yao ni dates (Dec, Nov or Jan). Spain, Italy, France and England have almost the same number of games in a season and their seasons start and end the same time. If the others are willing to change their schedules why can't England do the same?
@Mc Reggae....As you can see, UEFA and Platini don't have an issue with a winter WC in any case they've already endorsed it. I think the biggest problem right now is FIFA want it to be held in Nov-Dec while UEFA are proposing Jan-Feb.
Btw Qatar don't seem to have an issue wanasema they can stage the World Cup in the summer despite the searing heat by building air-conditioned stadiums which would cool the temperatures inside to around 28C....the only problem would be the fans outside the Stadium.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2012 Posts: 3,855 Location: Othumo
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Hiyo ya Platini ni side shows eventually Blatter & co will have their way. Now they are just milking Quateri oil. Thieves
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Even Platini was paid bigtime...follow the stories.. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Soccer-Qatar will not host World Cup - FIFA's ZwanzigerQuote:Zwanziger is member of FIFA Executive Committee
* Plans under way to shift World Cup to European winter (Updates with FIFA reaction)
BERLIN, Sept 22 (Reuters) - The 2022 World Cup will not be held in Qatar because of the scorching temperatures in the Middle East country, FIFA Executive Committee member Theo Zwanziger said on Monday.
"I personally think that in the end the 2022 World Cup will not take place in Qatar," the German told Sport Bild on Monday.
"Medics say that they cannot accept responsibility with a World Cup taking place under these conditions," the former German football (DFB) chief, who is now a member of the world soccer's governing body FIFA that awarded the tournament to Qatar in 2010.
Although wealthy Qatar has insisted that a summer World Cup is viable thanks to cooling technologies it is developing for stadiums, training areas and fan zones, there is still widespread concern over the health of the players and visiting supporters.
"They may be able to cool the stadiums but a World Cup does not take place only there," Zwanziger said.
"Fans from around the world will be coming and travelling in this heat and the first life-threatening case will trigger an investigation by a state prosecutor.
"That is not something that FIFA Exco members want to answer for."
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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