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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
Aguytrying
#841 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 12:38:01 PM
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the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
the day ill sell my hfck shares, people will be calling be the new young ( the Nigerian)

HF is great but its not good to fall in love with a stock like this...it can cloud your judgement...remember Kenol Kobil...:)


I'm not in love with the stock, I'm in love with the growth of the profits. once those taper ill be out. I'm watching what they do with the 20m bond...
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
jerry
#842 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 2:03:59 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
the day ill sell my hfck shares, people will be calling be the new young ( the Nigerian)

He(@young) had KCB for ages. Does he still hold them?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
VituVingiSana
#843 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 3:04:04 PM
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guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
i recommend a buy at circa kes 27


Oh so now its transformed from a sell to a buy without any changes in news?? Talk about watermelons Shame on you

And to put it simply... Its a buy TODAY!!
Well, @obiero said 27 which is 15% lower than today's 31.75
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#844 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 5:15:52 PM
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jerry wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
the day ill sell my hfck shares, people will be calling be the new young ( the Nigerian)

He(@young) had KCB for ages. Does he still hold them?


I don't get your point
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#845 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 6:11:05 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
i recommend a buy at circa kes 27


Oh so now its transformed from a sell to a buy without any changes in news?? Talk about watermelons Shame on you

And to put it simply... Its a buy TODAY!!
Well, @obiero said 27 which is 15% lower than today's 31.75


well it was at 27 just a few weeks ago and according to @obiero it was a serious sell.. And there hasn't been any news between today and then!

schizophrenia much! Sad
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obiero
#846 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 6:20:14 PM
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guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
i recommend a buy at circa kes 27


Oh so now its transformed from a sell to a buy without any changes in news?? Talk about watermelons Shame on you

And to put it simply... Its a buy TODAY!!
Well, @obiero said 27 which is 15% lower than today's 31.75


well it was at 27 just a few weeks ago and according to @obiero it was a serious sell.. And there hasn't been any news between today and then!

schizophrenia much! Sad

please repost what I said about selling at 27.. simply said I do not see KES 30 this year and it has only barely scraped past that mark. you are starting to look bad in the eyes of the public. please please, hapa hakuna hecklers, its serious investors only

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#847 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 6:41:36 PM
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obiero wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
obiero wrote:
WaHande wrote:
could it be a good buy at its current rate??

It is a good buy if you are comfortable with a return not exceeding 10% this year. It definitely cannot go beyond KES 30 before next year. I said the same in Q1 this year and some people tried to shut me up


@former driver. how do you know it cant go beyond 30.00? how do you know? stocks can't be predicted with the certainty you are trying to employ here

haha. yaani unaniita former driver. kuwa mpole.. sorry to appear too certain, indeed one cannot be 100% certain but I am 99.9% based on analysis of the charts plus macro environment in the mortgage subsector. i am a seasoned analyst who has only lost KES 48,250 since starting trade in 2006 at NSE where the same loss was fully recovered by gains in excess of 5million.. safaricom is the culprit share which I sold on panic


HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#848 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 6:46:49 PM
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this is how Raila must feel. always being pilloried while trying to employ utilitarianism..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Horton
#849 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 10:55:22 PM
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obiero wrote:
guru267 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
guru267 wrote:
obiero wrote:
i recommend a buy at circa kes 27


Oh so now its transformed from a sell to a buy without any changes in news?? Talk about watermelons Shame on you

And to put it simply... Its a buy TODAY!!
Well, @obiero said 27 which is 15% lower than today's 31.75


well it was at 27 just a few weeks ago and according to @obiero it was a serious sell.. And there hasn't been any news between today and then!

schizophrenia much! Sad

please repost what I said about selling at 27.. simply said I do not see KES 30 this year and it has only barely scraped past that mark. you are starting to look bad in the eyes of the public. please please, hapa hakuna hecklers, its serious investors only



Obiero confirm 5-10% above is these days referred to "barely"
gatoho
#850 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 11:43:26 PM
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obiero wrote:
this is how Raila must feel. always being pilloried while trying to employ utilitarianism..



Its never a Kenyan conversation until Agwambo's name is invoked, be it Madiba's death to people defiling chicken to this. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Foresight..
mwekez@ji
#851 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:24:11 PM
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HF Subsidiary Eyeing Sh10 Billion Venture Deals http://allafrica.com/stories/201312110761.html
Aguytrying
#852 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:12:43 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
HF Subsidiary Eyeing Sh10 Billion Venture Deals http://allafrica.com/stories/201312110761.html


I find their business model easy to understand. when kbs starts gaining steam, this share will be on fire. just need to hang on for the 20b to be borrowed then deployed then wait for the profits to grow
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
timuka
#853 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:16:19 AM
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What is the good news, mad rally in the last two days? Supply has dried up today. LTP 35.75
Horton
#854 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:17:50 AM
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40 bob doesn't seem too far now!
Metasploit
#855 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:21:47 AM
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i thought the 40 price target for q1 was ambitious.This is coming in Feb

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Horton
#856 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 10:48:01 AM
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New price target 50bob by March
young
#857 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:45:46 AM
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Thanks to you @Obiero.
You made me to join this bus. After watching it rise rom 14 to 24, I finally joined in at 24.75.

No regrets at all.
Thanks once again to @Obiero , thanks to you @Wazua.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
mlennyma
#858 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:02:45 PM
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this same obiero was advicing pple to sell at 30 I hope nobody is cursing him.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Kalameni
#859 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:05:04 PM
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@mlennyma no one is
Perfect to predict with certainity lesso. Learnt@ obiero must be eating humble pie.
obiero
#860 Posted : Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:53:52 PM
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Kalameni wrote:
@mlennyma no one is
Perfect to predict with certainity lesso. Learnt@ obiero must be eating humble pie.

@kalameni my money is not small money.. i dont deal with odd lots and 100 shares!!! i dint advice anyone to sell but i made my money and bailed. im still in the green and everyone here knows my porfolio is growing.. that said, hf is overbought. it may go to 40, but that is not its fair value in my estimation..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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