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tycho
#21 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 1:01:43 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Hospitals can't allow you to pledge security like land?

This is sad, the way many people can't even afford raising even a quarter of that figure! It means a lot of bodies are disposed off this way?

Maybe they try writing to their former MP wa Gatundu South?


They shouldn't pledge anything they may have for the body. They shouldn't even think twice about it. And neither should they go to a politician. This family needs plenty of counseling and a conversation that may go on for a long time, first to heal their minds and empower their minds to get rid of the poverty that's assailing them. In terms of monetary costs, this may even be higher than for the burial and I wonder who among us is willing to go with them through the journey.

I even wonder how I can help them. But whatever the case they need demons to be cast out of them, and at least one of them has to have tremendous willpower to hack it.
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jguru
#22 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 2:46:42 PM
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Pastor M wrote:
Thank you all for your comments.Allow me to comment on some of the of what the family has done

1)Social Worker-went to social and they said they can only waive 25% so the bill will be about 650,000 of which the family cannot still afford by the way the Mother to the girl is mentally ill.

2)Funds drive maybe because of the family connection raising even a 100k will be issue.

3)Talking to politician the family tried to reach the governor and the MPs they are saying they are following the issue.....KNH has said that they will dispose the Body in 21 days

4)What I m doing now?I m trying to counsel the family to accept and forget the Body although its not easy for the family.But the question that I m asking can KNH after burying the Body still follow the family for payment of the Bill ?Another question that I ask myself why would do they retain the body and dispose the Body will that assist in payment of the Bill.

IS THERE ANYONE IN WAZUA WHO MAY BE ABLE TO TALK TO KNH MANAGEMENT OR MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND REASON WITH THEM ABOUT THIS ISSUE....(sorry if I sound emotional)


Pastor, Pole.

1. But the question that I'm asking can KNH after burying the Body still follow the family for payment of the Bill? No. Once they bury or cremate the body, they close that case and will not follow the family for funds again.

2. Another question that I ask myself why would do they retain the body and dispose the Body will that assist in payment of the Bill? No. It's a revenue collection policy and while giving consent for admission, there must be a clause that allows them to do that.

It's very hard to raise money or get the required attention over a dear departed one. It is a bit easier when they are alive.

The ONLY option left is to collude with the attendants at the KNH mortuary for them to release the body to you.

Give them some cash, let them release her body to you through some clerical or intentional mistake and then tag another Jane Doe with her name (or declare it lost).

These are the same guys who dispose, cremate or bury these bodies or they donate them to UON for anatomy training.

But since you are a Pastor, you might not go down that path.

Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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jguru
#23 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 2:51:06 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
such costs are not covered under Jubilee manifesto's free maternity services which was launched as soon as Jubilee came to power?


No, they are not. Free maternal care covers delivery and not the complications that arise after. NHIF doesn't help much too.

The persons who made the gravest mistakes (pun intended) in this case are the health care personnel at Gatundu. They need to explain what happened to this mother, why she lost her baby, why she developed PPH and how the decision to refer her for ICU care was arrived at.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Pastor M
#24 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 4:22:19 PM
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jguru wrote:
Pastor M wrote:
Thank you all for your comments.Allow me to comment on some of the of what the family has done

1)Social Worker-went to social and they said they can only waive 25% so the bill will be about 650,000 of which the family cannot still afford by the way the Mother to the girl is mentally ill.

2)Funds drive maybe because of the family connection raising even a 100k will be issue.

3)Talking to politician the family tried to reach the governor and the MPs they are saying they are following the issue.....KNH has said that they will dispose the Body in 21 days

4)What I m doing now?I m trying to counsel the family to accept and forget the Body although its not easy for the family.But the question that I m asking can KNH after burying the Body still follow the family for payment of the Bill ?Another question that I ask myself why would do they retain the body and dispose the Body will that assist in payment of the Bill.

IS THERE ANYONE IN WAZUA WHO MAY BE ABLE TO TALK TO KNH MANAGEMENT OR MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND REASON WITH THEM ABOUT THIS ISSUE....(sorry if I sound emotional)


Pastor, Pole.

1. But the question that I'm asking can KNH after burying the Body still follow the family for payment of the Bill? No. Once they bury or cremate the body, they close that case and will not follow the family for funds again.

2. Another question that I ask myself why would do they retain the body and dispose the Body will that assist in payment of the Bill? No. It's a revenue collection policy and while giving consent for admission, there must be a clause that allows them to do that.

It's very hard to raise money or get the required attention over a dear departed one. It is a bit easier when they are alive.

The ONLY option left is to collude with the attendants at the KNH mortuary for them to release the body to you.

Give them some cash, let them release her body to you through some clerical or intentional mistake and then tag another Jane Doe with her name (or declare it lost).

These are the same guys who dispose, cremate or bury these bodies or they donate them to UON for anatomy training.

But since you are a Pastor, you might not go down that path.


@Jguru its funny,short and cheap way of getting the Body but its the wrong way and I cannot advise to follow that path.Thanks all for your comments.I think I will continue counseling them and let the Hospital bury the Body or maybe My God will intervene and a miracle may happen...which may also remove the family from poverty.
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