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Maternity Referral at KNH
kamundu
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 7:21:56 PM
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@tycho. Suppose this was wife... Would you go ahead and let them keep the body?
Im not seeing how @ Pastor M is getting any help from your advice.
I agree we have national issues to sort, but at this time.. The family needs the body. So lets give advice or help to make this happen.
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Bigchick
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:05:18 PM
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kamundu wrote:
@tycho. Suppose this was wife... Would you go ahead and let them keep the body?
Im not seeing how @ Pastor M is getting any help from your advice.
I agree we have national issues to sort, but at this time.. The family needs the body. So lets give advice or help to make this happen.



@Kamundu........I feel you.

But believe me unless someone comes to their aid that will be the end result.

I will also tell you its something that happens every other day.People voluntarily run away when they find their rela has passed on and the bill is not one they can meet.Others who are not dead but are out of danger colludewith the nurses and security and disappear during the lunch hour visit.


Unfortunately poverty strips us human feelings.

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thuks
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:08:13 PM
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kamundu wrote:
@tycho. Suppose this was wife... Would you go ahead and let them keep the body?
Im not seeing how @ Pastor M is getting any help from your advice.
I agree we have national issues to sort, but at this time.. The family needs the body. So lets give advice or help to make this happen.


This is a sad scenario. It is just one of the many similar ones in our country. It is a fact that many do not pay for NHIF because they are "not employed"
yet it would cost round-about ksh160 per month. If such a family had such a cover, how much more would the hospital demand from them?. Would the "social worker" or the hospital look at their case more favourably?
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thuks
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 8:11:37 PM
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mkenyan
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 9:17:27 PM
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Pastor M wrote:
Happy New year Wazuans...Anybody there who can assist,I have a friend whose sister was referred to KNH ICU from Gatundu Hospital due to bleeding after she lost her child.The Bill at KNH ICU shot to 850,000 unfortunately she also passed on.

Now KNH have detained the Body and want the family to pay the Bill...The Family is extremely poor and cannot afford to pay the Bill.Anybody in the wazua family who can assist with advise on how to go about this case...

tell them to go to kituo cha sheria or ask lsk for free legal help. though hospitals usually detain bodies till fees are paid, it is illegal. a human body is neither property nor asset to be detained for fees.
tycho
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 9:37:20 PM
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kamundu wrote:
@tycho. Suppose this was wife... Would you go ahead and let them keep the body?
Im not seeing how @ Pastor M is getting any help from your advice.
I agree we have national issues to sort, but at this time.. The family needs the body. So lets give advice or help to make this happen.


@Kamundu, when you visit the maternity wards of Kenyatta or Pumwani, you'll find many women with children who've not even received a visit from the fathers or husbands for months after 'discharge'.

For a couple in the 'slums' getting even ten thousand shillings is a huge problem, and it's so shameful even for the man to step into the hospital for a visit.

Just the other day someone was recounting what his father used to do during meal time. The father would cook a big ugali and two eggs for himself and announce that ugali was for all, but each was to find his own 'mboga'. That's how children end up dragging magnets along ditches and end dying as robbery suspects.

Most girls are wives when childless and young, after that they are on their own. That's poverty for you. It doesn't know 'wife', 'child', 'father', or 'husband'.

Am not sure @Pastor M needs any advice. Or isn't he a pastor in some church/ministry with a congregation? A diocese or something? Or am I expecting too much?

If there's anyone who needs help, then it's the bereaved child and I have no bread for him, only stones.
Pastor M
#17 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 11:42:01 AM
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Thank you all for your comments.Allow me to comment on some of the of what the family has done

1)Social Worker-went to social and they said they can only waive 25% so the bill will be about 650,000 of which the family cannot still afford by the way the Mother to the girl is mentally ill.

2)Funds drive maybe because of the family connection raising even a 100k will be issue.

3)Talking to politician the family tried to reach the governor and the MPs they are saying they are following the issue.....KNH has said that they will dispose the Body in 21 days

4)What I m doing now?I m trying to counsel the family to accept and forget the Body although its not easy for the family.But the question that I m asking can KNH after burying the Body still follow the family for payment of the Bill ?Another question that I ask myself why would do they retain the body and dispose the Body will that assist in payment of the Bill.

IS THERE ANYONE IN WAZUA WHO MAY BE ABLE TO TALK TO KNH MANAGEMENT OR MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND REASON WITH THEM ABOUT THIS ISSUE....(sorry if I sound emotional)
Bigchick
#18 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 12:35:21 PM
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I think @ Pastor M you are on the right path.Let them hold a memorial service after 21 days to bring closure to the matter.

Whatever money they collect should assist the living left behind and not going to Kenyatta who have the ability but lacking the will to waive the funds.

Let Kenyatta keep and dispose the body.Keep counselling them.
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#19 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 12:48:17 PM
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Hospitals can't allow you to pledge security like land?

This is sad, the way many people can't even afford raising even a quarter of that figure! It means a lot of bodies are disposed off this way?

Maybe they try writing to their former MP wa Gatundu South?
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#20 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 12:55:31 PM
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such costs are not covered under Jubilee manifesto's free maternity services which was launched as soon as Jubilee came to power?
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