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Getting a loan to buy Mumias shares
ptor
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:46:00 AM
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I have applied a loan of ksh 100000 to buy Mumias shares now that there been upward movement.Is that a good investment?

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Ali Baba
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:05:00 PM
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Unfortunately,no.Never ever buy shares on loan.And in any case,why mumias??

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ecstacy
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:35:00 PM
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boss,you are asking after you've already decided?...what informed your decision? give more information if you want advise not consolation.
jerry
#4 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 5:23:00 AM
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@Ptor. We put into shares what we can afford to lose. How do u repay ur loan?

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jammo
#5 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 5:28:00 AM
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Let me get this. Asking for a loan..with a fixed predictable interest rate charge...to invest in shares..whose return on investment is uncertain..unpredictable.. unquantifiable...????? You my friend,are what makes people call investing gambling. Please note,the house always....ALWAYS wins. Best of luck.

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jammo
#6 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 5:48:00 AM
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Every form3 business studies student...every economics student..knows that Savings=Investment..... that debt is NOT savings...plus sincerely..You do realise that additional handling costs on bank loans translate to an annualized loan charge of atleast 27% ..meaning this plus broker charges means that in the very least you are more than certain mumias MUST go up 30% for u to break even..or just return the Loan back n get back to where u where befor the loan..considering a loan to buy shares. King solomon must hav had u in mind when he quipped '..it's all chasing after the wind!..' please do somethin else with the loan.. Set up a kiosk for water,vegetables,fruits or something...as long as it's a consumable thing..guaranteeing actual cash flow.

..if it is not expressly prohibited in law.. DO IT!!!!
mukiha
#7 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 6:26:00 AM
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@ptor;

You are putting the cart before the horse!

Jammo has said this inumerable time: you never buy your stock in one large order! So if you get the sh100k from the bank,and decide that you want to nuy the MSC shares,don't give the broker one fat order!

Split the 100k into,say,ten portions of sh10,000 each. Then commit to purchase 10k worth of the shares each month for the next 10 months.

In the ten months,you will be paying back the loan to the bank,presumably using your salary. If your loan is repayable in 12 months at,say 15% interest,the bank will expect you to pay about sh9k each month. This means that you can get sh9k per month,si-ndio?

So here comes the question: why take the loan [and pay interest] while you can actually afford to buy the shares with your salary?




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The General
#8 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 6:45:00 AM
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@ptor,if you are an investor,who has done his/her homework,then it makes sense


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ptor
#9 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 7:36:00 AM
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Im repaying the loan using salo

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mukiha
#10 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2009 7:58:00 AM
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Don't take the loan. You don't need it!

Ask the bank to calculate for you the installments. then commit that amount (from your salo) to buying MSC in small portions every month.

Tha't the beauty of stocks; unlike land,you can buy small lots that fit into your pocket without having to take a loan.

Usiwe na haraka...ya kununua zote mara moja.

Eg.,the last six months,I've been putting sh3k to sh4k into two counters every week...one week here,the next week there....

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