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64% of us say Kenya is lost
thuks
#11 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:56:46 PM
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Who has the compass? East or west ....
I care!
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:08:46 PM
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thuks wrote:
Who has the compass? East or west ....


That would depend on what Kenyans are interested in.Without some form of consensus within us we would end up being caught up between the two and lose the opportunity of establishing ourselves like the East has.
Ole Lenku
#13 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:17:00 PM
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muganda wrote:
I must admit though, battles on too many fronts could lose the war:

- MPs *won*
- Governors *won*
- ICC *leading*

- Judiciary
- Teachers
- Doctors
- Media
- NGOs
- Western countries

- CORD
- Keter


WSR
ecstacy
#14 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:26:13 PM
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We are a funny lot Kenyans.

We voted for devolution but act surprised it is being implemented. The central government has done well not to interfere with what you voted for. Kudos to them for not using teething issues to kill devolution. This transitional phase with teething issues is expected. In good time history will reflect.

Another bunch is this Fourth Estate. We are in darkness because of them. They been shouting hoarse they are the change 'champions' but when the time comes to drink the water they have been preaching they are resisting the inevitable digital migration all the while misinforming the public despite it having been a participatory process with time based milestones. Kudos to the government for holding ground and the judge for upholding the veracity of the process.

Change never comes easy. Let us tune ourselves accordingly.
butterflyke
#15 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:59:07 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Using my sycophantic eyes I agree nothing much seems/appears to have happenned.However I hasten to add the following:

1.Who trusts Synovate anymore????

2.The probation period that has been used to evaluate is abit short.More so when the government financial year starts in July.

3.Transition to county governments has not been easy

4.Sabotuers are all over.

5.Those who have been living out of corruption are finding the world looking different coz deals do not seem to be there.

Maswala nyeti....

As citizens what is our individual contribution to the failures? What can we do different? Zeroing on our counties, how can we make them work?

Will strikes help?

We all want to eat the cake but are we participating in baking?


I am no fan of Synovate but the trouble in Kenya is that the ingredients are being 'eaten' even before they can be used to bake. Resource haemorrhage whilst squeezing pennies out of mwananchi has to stop.

I doubt if things were working well, anyone would be patting Wanjiku's back for all the contributiona she has done. Rather people would only be ga'arment praising....

That said we just have to hope and work for a better Kenya.

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
tycho
#16 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:08:53 PM
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This 64% should be taught 'the power of positive thinking'.

It doesn't matter how bad things are, what matters is whether the people have the power and will to make things better. If 30% can make Kenya better then everything is okay.
guru267
#17 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:49:29 PM
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When a country is in take off phase the citizens of the day have to pay a high price to secure their childrens future!

Kenya is definitely taking off!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
D32
#18 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 3:51:23 AM
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Are folk are expecting changes, like the Jubilee Gov is a magic wand? We are not in a fairytale world.

This gov inherited problems from the previous Govs, it's not like things were good, then this gov messed things up. If things were good then this gov messed things up, then we'd have all the rights to complain.

This Gov has not event been in office for a year (so far, about 8 months) and already:

- Industries being revived, e.g. the latest one that I heared of - banning the importation of furniture to create employment locally.
- Traffic lights
- Free maternity
- Soon, visa on arrival for all African nations
- Digitising the Gov - E.g. soon you'll be able to register a biz via your phone. http://www.businessdaily.../-/13i1mj8/-/index.html
- New railway project, from Mombasa, to Malaba.
- Speeding up business at Mombasa port

Of course there are more that have not been mentioned here, point is that they've just been around for about eight months, and already they have done and are doing good things.

Can you count what was achieved in the last 8 months of the previous gov?

The new gov is doing good work, all under the backdrop of:

- A new government structure, meaning, people are still learning the ropes, learning how to get along. Counties, governors, senators, devolution etc...
- Burnt airport
- Graft, e.g. the corrupt police, the unaccountable billions from the previous gov etc...
- Poor infrastructure, e.g. roads that were designed for a population, of which decades ago, was much less than what we now have. E.g., Mombasa highway, a super busy, two lane road. Of course the probability of an accident occurring, e.g. during overtaking will be multiple times greater when the number of vehicles are multiple times more on each of the two lanes. Mombasa road along with all major highways need to be upgraded to be at least like Waiyaki Way.
- A bloated workforce, consuming the budget. (The workforce needs to be made lean and mean via training and adopting productivity technology).
- The existence of a large and desperate population.
- Bandits / cattle rustlers, from both local and foreign towns (Ethiopia).
- Terrorists
- ICC

Etc...

Good leadership is what will drive change, and personally, I think that we have the best president this country ever had, and probably one of the best that this country will ever have.

An analogy, if it's an engine that can safely do 9000 RPM, this gov has just started it's engine, we are at 1000 RPM, and we are already experiencing good movement, getting a feel of the engine's potential, just wait till reaches 9000 RPM - And we still haven't even started cashing the oil.

These pollsters should spend their time doing something more productive.
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
maka
#19 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 7:59:58 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
To be honest, as a jubilant i agree with the poll...in 9 months nothing much achieved especially when i recall the powerful speeches


I really hope they change in the coming year...
possunt quia posse videntur
Ole Lenku
#20 Posted : Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:34:50 AM
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D32 wrote:
Are folk are expecting changes, like the Jubilee Gov is a magic wand? We are not in a fairytale world.

This gov inherited problems from the previous Govs, it's not like things were good, then this gov messed things up. If things were good then this gov messed things up, then we'd have all the rights to complain.

This Gov has not event been in office for a year (so far, about 8 months) and already:

- Industries being revived, e.g. the latest one that I heared of - banning the importation of furniture to create employment locally.
- Traffic lights
- Free maternity
- Soon, visa on arrival for all African nations
- Digitising the Gov - E.g. soon you'll be able to register a biz via your phone. http://www.businessdaily.../-/13i1mj8/-/index.html
- New railway project, from Mombasa, to Malaba.
- Speeding up business at Mombasa port

Of course there are more that have not been mentioned here, point is that they've just been around for about eight months, and already they have done and are doing good things.

Can you count what was achieved in the last 8 months of the previous gov?

The new gov is doing good work, all under the backdrop of:

- A new government structure, meaning, people are still learning the ropes, learning how to get along. Counties, governors, senators, devolution etc...
- Burnt airport
- Graft, e.g. the corrupt police, the unaccountable billions from the previous gov etc...
- Poor infrastructure, e.g. roads that were designed for a population, of which decades ago, was much less than what we now have. E.g., Mombasa highway, a super busy, two lane road. Of course the probability of an accident occurring, e.g. during overtaking will be multiple times greater when the number of vehicles are multiple times more on each of the two lanes. Mombasa road along with all major highways need to be upgraded to be at least like Waiyaki Way.
- A bloated workforce, consuming the budget. (The workforce needs to be made lean and mean via training and adopting productivity technology).
- The existence of a large and desperate population.
- Bandits / cattle rustlers, from both local and foreign towns (Ethiopia).
- Terrorists
- ICC

Etc...

Good leadership is what will drive change, and personally, I think that we have the best president this country ever had, and probably one of the best that this country will ever have.

An analogy, if it's an engine that can safely do 9000 RPM, this gov has just started it's engine, we are at 1000 RPM, and we are already experiencing good movement, getting a feel of the engine's potential, just wait till reaches 9000 RPM - And we still haven't even started cashing the oil.

These pollsters should spend their time doing something more productive.

How can someone(@D23) write such a long post with little substance. Those were five minutes of my life spent reading this post I will never get back.
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