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[quote=thuks]The devolution http://mobile.nation.co....l/-/6lerkw/-/index.html[/quote]  Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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We have a deal  
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washiku wrote:We have a deal Daily Nation wrote:Doctors Friday called off their 11 day strike, but said they would review the strike’s outcome in an annual congress in two weeks’ time after government failed to meet most of their demands.
Union officials and Cabinet Secretaries for Devolution Ann Waiguru and her Health counterpart James Macharia, made the announcement at 11pm in the night following lengthy discussions to end the stalemate.
The Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Union Secretary General Sultani Matendechero predicted a fall out within the unions after most of their demands were not met. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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murchr wrote:washiku wrote:We have a deal Daily Nation wrote:Doctors Friday called off their 11 day strike, but said they would review the strike’s outcome in an annual congress in two weeks’ time after government failed to meet most of their demands.
Union officials and Cabinet Secretaries for Devolution Ann Waiguru and her Health counterpart James Macharia, made the announcement at 11pm in the night following lengthy discussions to end the stalemate.
The Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Union Secretary General Sultani Matendechero predicted a fall out within the unions after most of their demands were not met. Looks like this rose has more thorns than flowers. The tone of the narrative points to a demoralized human resource. I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:We have a deal The notice for appeal has already been given....but this matter should be resolved diplomatically.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 402
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thuks wrote:murchr wrote:washiku wrote:We have a deal Daily Nation wrote:Doctors Friday called off their 11 day strike, but said they would review the strike’s outcome in an annual congress in two weeks’ time after government failed to meet most of their demands.
Union officials and Cabinet Secretaries for Devolution Ann Waiguru and her Health counterpart James Macharia, made the announcement at 11pm in the night following lengthy discussions to end the stalemate.
The Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentist Union Secretary General Sultani Matendechero predicted a fall out within the unions after most of their demands were not met. Looks like this rose has more thorns than flowers. The tone of the narrative points to a demoralized human resource. Are strikes called off by cabinet secretaries or union officials? IT IS STILL ON my frien reports of a deal are nothing but hearsay.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2012 Posts: 169
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Current state-20 min ago by M.O Quote:STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS:
Ladies and gentlemen, gallant warriors of our union. It is yet another time that we beg for leadership. This is a union with structures and a constitution and in the event of a vacuum of leadership we have people to take care of that.
As we are all aware, rumours are spreading all over and I don't think it should take more than 8hours for the Sec Gen to come forth and direct his soldiers.
Due to the vacuum created by this lack of leadership I propose we move forward as follows:
1. Dr. Abi Mwachi who is the deputy secretary general to take over the position of Ag. Sec Gen and call for an urgent SDC
2. Dr.Matendechero Sultani Matendechero to honourably step down and disown any agreement signed with the government.
3. The strike is still ON until the MEMBERS agree in consensus to call it off.
4. This is our union and it is the only thing we have. Sultani is such a hardworking and dedicated fellow, I wonder why they are still disgruntled. Not suprising though,It's all politics.
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sherrif wrote:Current state-20 min ago by M.O Quote:STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS:
Ladies and gentlemen, gallant warriors of our union. It is yet another time that we beg for leadership. This is a union with structures and a constitution and in the event of a vacuum of leadership we have people to take care of that.
As we are all aware, rumours are spreading all over and I don't think it should take more than 8hours for the Sec Gen to come forth and direct his soldiers.
Due to the vacuum created by this lack of leadership I propose we move forward as follows:
1. Dr. Abi Mwachi who is the deputy secretary general to take over the position of Ag. Sec Gen and call for an urgent SDC
2. Dr.Matendechero Sultani Matendechero to honourably step down and disown any agreement signed with the government.
3. The strike is still ON until the MEMBERS agree in consensus to call it off.
4. This is our union and it is the only thing we have. Sultani is such a hardworking and dedicated fellow, I wonder why they are still disgruntled. Not suprising though,It's all politics. Its quite unfortunateif they can not even speak as one at this crucial moment. Govt will just see an opportunity n strike it when hot with a divide n rule hammer. Maybe they are suspect matende ha been given some tea to shut up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Unhealthy devolution.Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:sherrif wrote:Current state-20 min ago by M.O Quote:STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS:
Ladies and gentlemen, gallant warriors of our union. It is yet another time that we beg for leadership. This is a union with structures and a constitution and in the event of a vacuum of leadership we have people to take care of that.
As we are all aware, rumours are spreading all over and I don't think it should take more than 8hours for the Sec Gen to come forth and direct his soldiers.
Due to the vacuum created by this lack of leadership I propose we move forward as follows:
1. Dr. Abi Mwachi who is the deputy secretary general to take over the position of Ag. Sec Gen and call for an urgent SDC
2. Dr.Matendechero Sultani Matendechero to honourably step down and disown any agreement signed with the government.
3. The strike is still ON until the MEMBERS agree in consensus to call it off.
4. This is our union and it is the only thing we have. Sultani is such a hardworking and dedicated fellow, I wonder why they are still disgruntled. Not suprising though,It's all politics. Its quite unfortunateif they can not even speak as one at this crucial moment. Govt will just see an opportunity n strike it when hot with a divide n rule hammer. Maybe they are suspect matende ha been given some tea to shut up. Actually thats what the other union fellows are saying... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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The CS Health says they finish the transfer of payroll function to counties today and that medics will be paid in time. He says they'll hold a consultative meeting with the unions too. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rankaz13 wrote:The CS Health says they finish the transfer of payroll function to counties today and that medics will be paid in time. He says they'll hold a consultative meeting with the unions too. Okiyah on the other hand and co. are going to court...the petition has so many things amongst them.discrimination against professionals working in level 2,3,4 and level 5 national referral health facilities. Unconstitutional transfer of level 2,level 3,level 4 and level 5 nationa referral health facilities from the national govt to county govts. possunt quia posse videntur
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maka wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:The CS Health says they finish the transfer of payroll function to counties today and that medics will be paid in time. He says they'll hold a consultative meeting with the unions too. Okiyah on the other hand and co. are going to court...the petition has so many things amongst them.discrimination against professionals working in level 2,3,4 and level 5 national referral health facilities. Unconstitutional transfer of level 2,level 3,level 4 and level 5 nationa referral health facilities from the national govt to county govts. I think this matter is done and dusted. Health care has been effectively devolved to counties. Governors are paying MoH salaries for Jan going forwards. I foresee problems when Med students graduate. Who will employ them? Who will pay them? Also, who pays for Post-Graduate training of doctors? Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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The sooner this devolution monster is disbanded the better. Counties need professional CEOs with performance contracts administered by the national governmment and not clueless politicians
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Looks like the worst is finally here. So far, Baringo, Marsabit and Laikipia counties confirmed to have cut health workers' salaries by withdrawing some allowances. No explanations as yet. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rankaz13 wrote:Looks like the worst is finally here. So far, Baringo, Marsabit and Laikipia counties confirmed to have cut health workers' salaries by withdrawing some allowances. No explanations as yet. I don't think the doctors have seen anything yet. Mambo bado. It will get really ugly. When I finally understood what this whole devolution means I must say I totally sympathized with the doctors. It is however a monster that is now in the house that they must learn to live with. In summary this is what it means. Now that the function of health is devolved it means that the decisions on how to allocate resources for matters health fall squarely with the county governments. Each county in its own wisdom will have its own priorities. County assemblies are made up of the local people and they would just as an example wonder why you need a hardship allowance to live in their county when they have lived there all their lives without any problems. Depending on how remote a county is everybody from a nurse to a clinical officer to a surgeon are all Daktari so why would one be earning 5 times what the other earn. You might be in a county where the county cabinet secretary of health is a former clinical officer or lab technician and the county assembly is full of local businessmen from butchers to matatu operators. As a doctor you will need to justify to these people why you need some expensive hospital equipment to do your job. There is no National activism on matters health anymore, medical personnel will have to engage their respective counties separately. Talk about Kizungumkuti.
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Kusadikika wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Looks like the worst is finally here. So far, Baringo, Marsabit and Laikipia counties confirmed to have cut health workers' salaries by withdrawing some allowances. No explanations as yet. I don't think the doctors have seen anything yet. Mambo bado. It will get really ugly. When I finally understood what this whole devolution means I must say I totally sympathized with the doctors. It is however a monster that is now in the house that they must learn to live with. In summary this is what it means. Now that the function of health is devolved it means that the decisions on how to allocate resources for matters health fall squarely with the county governments. Each county in its own wisdom will have its own priorities. County assemblies are made up of the local people and they would just as an example wonder why you need a hardship allowance to live in their county when they have lived there all their lives without any problems. Depending on how remote a county is everybody from a nurse to a clinical officer to a surgeon are all Daktari so why would one be earning 5 times what the other earn. You might be in a county where the county cabinet secretary of health is a former clinical officer or lab technician and the county assembly is full of local businessmen from butchers to matatu operators. As a doctor you will need to justify to these people why you need some expensive hospital equipment to do your job. There is no National activism on matters health anymore, medical personnel will have to engage their respective counties separately. Talk about Kizungumkuti. I must say the health professions(and many of us) slept during the revolution. We have to live with it, since we never digested the import of each clause in the constitution.
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Rankaz13 wrote:Looks like the worst is finally here. So far, Baringo, Marsabit and Laikipia counties confirmed to have cut health workers' salaries by withdrawing some allowances. No explanations as yet. Woi! Nimathira! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rankaz13 wrote:Looks like the worst is finally here. So far, Baringo, Marsabit and Laikipia counties confirmed to have cut health workers' salaries by withdrawing some allowances. No explanations as yet. I don't think there is any county that will pay doctors non-practicing allowances. IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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