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ICC HE Uhuru Kenyatta PORK - 12th November
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maka
#361 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 8:47:16 AM
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@Am,Murchr...I think and Masukuma dont jump the gun yet...Ahmednassir the master of such trial trickery used the word "if" not any other word...the trial hasnt collapsed yet...when the trial goes ahead dont be shocked.
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Am
#362 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 8:59:44 AM
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Many Lessons we need to learn here. Topz On the list is........
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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McReggae
#363 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:01:39 AM
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Am wrote:
Many Lessons we need to learn here. Topz On the list is........


When you are faced with such cases make sure to get into the topmost office in the land and then cajole, buy and intimidate your way out......hides!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Muheani
#364 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:07:20 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Am wrote:
Many Lessons we need to learn here. Topz On the list is........


When you are faced with such cases make sure to get into the topmost office in the land and then cajole, buy and intimidate your way out......hides!!!


@mcreg. Let me paraphrase what u ve said..."do all you can..."..no?

They say a man got to do what a man got to do.
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Am
#365 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:22:08 AM
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maka wrote:
@Am,Murchr...I think and Masukuma dont jump the gun yet...Ahmednassir the master of such trial trickery used the word "if" not any other word...the trial hasnt collapsed yet...when the trial goes ahead dont be shocked.


Really? unbelievable stuff..Leaving Ahmednassir out, Do you, as @Maka see enough evidence against PORK to sustain this case? Yes or No.
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Shotgun
#366 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:22:34 AM
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UK''s case collapsed when they acquitted Muthaura. Bensouda was just grandstanding or working under instructions of her 'masters'. I see the president's team applying for a straight acquittal with this current development. This will be the test whether the 'owners of ICC' really wants him free or that was a tactical retreat. What does the Rome statute say about double jeopardy?

On political implications, I believe the president's men know the repercussion of not fully supporting WSR on his case so I expect the same vigour in the fight against the ICC. What better PR for Uhuru by creating a perception in RV that he is all over Africa trying to save their son? Furthermore, the change of procedural rules by the ASP were for both UK and WSR. AU's threats to withdraw en masse was also pegged on both UK and WSR being allowed to fulfill their constitutional obligations without the interference of ICC. So Bensouda just done 50% of the request and the fight to save WSR is still on.

ION, what if the 'dynamic duo' appointed Makwere instead of Amina for the Foreign Affairs docket...where will we be ICC-wise?
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washiku
#367 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:48:14 AM
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Shotgun wrote:
UK''s case collapsed when they acquitted Muthaura.



I kept asking about this issue. I never understood how the two were co-accused yet one is let off the other is left.
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washiku
#368 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:49:52 AM
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maka wrote:
@Am,Murchr...I think and Masukuma dont jump the gun yet...Ahmednassir the master of such trial trickery used the word "if" not any other word...the trial hasnt collapsed yet...when the trial goes ahead dont be shocked.


I will be very shocked if it goes ahead, very shocked indeed.
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King G
#369 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 9:53:04 AM
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washiku wrote:
maka wrote:
@Am,Murchr...I think and Masukuma dont jump the gun yet...Ahmednassir the master of such trial trickery used the word "if" not any other word...the trial hasnt collapsed yet...when the trial goes ahead dont be shocked.


I will be very shocked if it goes ahead, very shocked indeed.


Let us be realistic, this case kwishad once UMK became PORK...
Thieves
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Am
#370 Posted : Friday, December 20, 2013 10:50:39 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Am wrote:
Many Lessons we need to learn here. Topz On the list is........


When you are faced with such cases make sure to get into the topmost office in the land and then cajole, buy and intimidate your way out......hides!!!


....and pray that you out smart the most powerful WEST nations, and of course Pay the witnesses handsomely than the prosecution smile smile smile
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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