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Filth in Security Institutions...The Police..
Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:13:59 PM
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This so called police vetting has started off with a very bad note indeed as it has started unearthing some very bad deployment incompetencies in the police department and to a larger scale security institutions...

Just how does an officer deploy a whole an Aeronautical Engineer cum Aviation Scientist to the post of a Kenya National Focal Point on Small Arms when the aviation section of the security institution is so massive???

Aeronautical Engineer Deployed to a post unrelated to his profession...

This is one classic example of a brilliant professional going to waste and we keep crying all the time brain drain!!! brain drain!!! brain drain!!!

No wonder a beverage manager could be called in to run the security apparatus in the country!!!ABK!!!NKT!!!

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
tycho
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:25:50 PM
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Your thoughts are bearing one assumption; that security services should be structured on market forces. In Kenya, the security system is 'isolationist' and 'central', and private participation in terms of research and development and execution of security related activity appears to be largely underdeveloped.

Hence the irrationality you are seeing comes as the disparity of rationale between the citizen and security services.

It all depends on the kind of politics we want to play, and how leadership is understood.



kamundu
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:28:18 PM
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And the guy who was shamelessly earning two salos........
Peace in our Homeland.
jaggernaut
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:38:47 PM
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Did i hear that some cop is earning 3.7m per month? And that another one never takes loans to buy his houses and plots but rather 'saves' and pays cash.
McReggae
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:37:21 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Did i hear that some cop is earning 3.7m per month? And that another one never takes loans to buy his houses and plots but rather 'saves' and pays cash.


.....and their sizes!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Adnan
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:42:36 PM
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Another one collects 210k monthly rent from 10 SINGLE ROOMS in Tassia.
MY NAME IS ADNAN JANUZAJ
Kaigangio
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:57:09 PM
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tycho wrote:
Your thoughts are bearing one assumption; that security services should be structured on market forces. In Kenya, the security system is 'isolationist' and 'central', and private participation in terms of research and development and execution of security related activity appears to be largely underdeveloped.

Hence the irrationality you are seeing comes as the disparity of rationale between the citizen and security services.

It all depends on the kind of politics we want to play, and how leadership is understood.





I made no assumption @tycho...plain fact and very simple...

Do you send a doctor to do an engineer's work and vice versa???
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
maka
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:14:53 PM
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McReggae wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Did i hear that some cop is earning 3.7m per month? And that another one never takes loans to buy his houses and plots but rather 'saves' and pays cash.


.....and their sizes!!!!!


He he he vibonge...
possunt quia posse videntur
tycho
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:52:25 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
tycho wrote:
Your thoughts are bearing one assumption; that security services should be structured on market forces. In Kenya, the security system is 'isolationist' and 'central', and private participation in terms of research and development and execution of security related activity appears to be largely underdeveloped.

Hence the irrationality you are seeing comes as the disparity of rationale between the citizen and security services.

It all depends on the kind of politics we want to play, and how leadership is understood.





I made no assumption @tycho...plain fact and very simple...

Do you send a doctor to do an engineer's work and vice versa???


Jobs that are dictated by market forces may demand that a specialist be taken to his area of specialization especially after Winslow Taylor's methods.

But there are two exceptions to this rule. Firstly, when the product isn't controlled by a 'free market' then the qualifications for doing the job may depend on other qualities. For example a person like Isaac Newton was knighted for being a master of the mint not for science or philosophy.

An engineer may make an excellent criminal investigator. An accountant an excellent sharp shooter.

The other exception is when there's widespread automation and human resource capacity levels are bridged by a rich, shared and interactive information base.
segemia
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:11:56 PM
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tycho wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
tycho wrote:
Your thoughts are bearing one assumption; that security services should be structured on market forces. In Kenya, the security system is 'isolationist' and 'central', and private participation in terms of research and development and execution of security related activity appears to be largely underdeveloped.

Hence the irrationality you are seeing comes as the disparity of rationale between the citizen and security services.

It all depends on the kind of politics we want to play, and how leadership is understood.





I made no assumption @tycho...plain fact and very simple...

Do you send a doctor to do an engineer's work and vice versa???


Jobs that are dictated by market forces may demand that a specialist be taken to his area of specialization especially after Winslow Taylor's methods.

But there are two exceptions to this rule. Firstly, when the product isn't controlled by a 'free market' then the qualifications for doing the job may depend on other qualities. For example a person like Isaac Newton was knighted for being a master of the mint not for science or philosophy.

An engineer may make an excellent criminal investigator. An accountant an excellent sharp shooter.

The other exception is when there's widespread automation and human resource capacity levels are bridged by a rich, shared and interactive information base.


Wacha kundanganya watu!!!

Can't you express yourself in simple language. No linguistic competition here you know and no need for phylosophical sentimentalities.

If the job description is already stated in the original advert, why change it later to suit a third party's intentions??
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