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Impunity
#81 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:16:07 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Is the SG rail going to replace the old track or both will be operating? Anyone in the know?


They will run parallel like the case in Thailand, in those areas where land is restricted the SG rail will run on top of the Lunatic line,like in Kibish kwa kina @McReggae and RAO.


Laughing out loudly Kijana you have been on my case for the last two weeks....what is???


@imp, noted. Sasa, si mcharazane to liven up this boring day. ....we need a show guys ;-)


@Butterflyke recently alleged that @McReggae is one and the same @wazualet who is 101% pro-RAO and GOR.
smile smile


Also pro Man Utd 101% I guess, are you you are not accusing @Butterflyke wrongly? How many people allege you are so and so and who goes on to insinuate the same in multiple thread more than the imposter himslef......does it mean you are the imposter?


@Butterfyk may be 101%Man U, but the @wazualet handle of yours is pro-GOR and RAO. "she" is not called @Butterflyk but some Angelic name.
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freiks
#82 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:18:59 PM
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King G wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
186km ~ $874m

485km ~ $4b

Ours will have too many bridges or what? Ama ni terrain?


I think terrain is key...but it becomes key after Nairobi heading towards Malaba/Kisumu.

Ftom Mombasa to Nairobi its nyweee until you reach the hills of Mayakos...buy crossing the Rify Valley is purely "lunatic" dream!
Sad


Am not defending anyone but maybe a little maths can help..... assumption is the terrains are the same...
485km ÷ 186km = 2.60752688172043

2.60752688172043 x $874m = $2278.978494623656m = $2.3b

so we are saying the terrain and bridges will cost us an excess of $4b - $2.3b = $1.7bd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Now assuming different terrains..... how many bridges, overpasses, underpasses, tunnels, etc will be built on both rail lines so that we can compare the two cost estimates (nija and kenya) on comparable terms....

@jahman... can you post the master plans for the two we compare??? i know you have sources!!

better still compare the cost of Nkubu-Thuchi road in Meru (60km) with that of Mwingi-Garissa Road (194km) and you will be shocked how costly was the former!!


Have you ever been to Rift Valley in the region between Turi and Molo? There is a whole viaduct connecting two hill tops carrying the Lunatic rail...the viaduct is so high and so long that it swallows the whole pine (smile , train) no matter how long the train is....I think 1.7B Dorrars is not byad!

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Mombasa to Nairobi .......Turi and Molo Boss are you on the same page.


Across Tsavo it will be elevated to prevent train wildlife accidents, cant imagine an elephant deciding the pole to be an obstruction
Life is an endless adventure
Impunity
#83 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:19:54 PM
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Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
King G wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
186km ~ $874m

485km ~ $4b

Ours will have too many bridges or what? Ama ni terrain?


I think terrain is key...but it becomes key after Nairobi heading towards Malaba/Kisumu.

Ftom Mombasa to Nairobi its nyweee until you reach the hills of Mayakos...buy crossing the Rify Valley is purely "lunatic" dream!
Sad


Am not defending anyone but maybe a little maths can help..... assumption is the terrains are the same...
485km ÷ 186km = 2.60752688172043

2.60752688172043 x $874m = $2278.978494623656m = $2.3b

so we are saying the terrain and bridges will cost us an excess of $4b - $2.3b = $1.7bd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

Now assuming different terrains..... how many bridges, overpasses, underpasses, tunnels, etc will be built on both rail lines so that we can compare the two cost estimates (nija and kenya) on comparable terms....

@jahman... can you post the master plans for the two we compare??? i know you have sources!!

better still compare the cost of Nkubu-Thuchi road in Meru (60km) with that of Mwingi-Garissa Road (194km) and you will be shocked how costly was the former!!


Have you ever been to Rift Valley in the region between Turi and Molo? There is a whole viaduct connecting two hill tops carrying the Lunatic rail...the viaduct is so high and so long that it swallows the whole pine (smile , train) no matter how long the train is....I think 1.7B Dorrars is not byad!

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


Mombasa to Nairobi .......Turi and Molo Boss are you on the same page.


I was expanding your horizon going forward...but kuna tulima hapo past Konza heading to Mayakos and Nairobi.
smile
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McReggae
#84 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 3:22:52 PM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Is the SG rail going to replace the old track or both will be operating? Anyone in the know?


They will run parallel like the case in Thailand, in those areas where land is restricted the SG rail will run on top of the Lunatic line,like in Kibish kwa kina @McReggae and RAO.


Laughing out loudly Kijana you have been on my case for the last two weeks....what is???


@imp, noted. Sasa, si mcharazane to liven up this boring day. ....we need a show guys ;-)


@Butterflyke recently alleged that @McReggae is one and the same @wazualet who is 101% pro-RAO and GOR.
smile smile


Also pro Man Utd 101% I guess, are you you are not accusing @Butterflyke wrongly? How many people allege you are so and so and who goes on to insinuate the same in multiple thread more than the imposter himslef......does it mean you are the imposter?


@Butterfyk may be 101%Man U, but the @wazualet handle of yours is pro-GOR and RAO. "she" is not called @Butterflyk but some Angelic name.


You didn't understand my response a zilch!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#85 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:11:21 PM
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China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC) Ltd Vs China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC)
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#86 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:15:40 PM
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McReggae wrote:
China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC) Ltd Vs China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC)


The contract should have been given to the former!
The latter is well versed with matters road and bridges!
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Impunity
#87 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:21:12 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Is the SG rail going to replace the old track or both will be operating? Anyone in the know?


They will run parallel like the case in Thailand, in those areas where land is restricted the SG rail will run on top of the Lunatic line,like in Kibish kwa kina @McReggae and RAO.


Laughing out loudly Kijana you have been on my case for the last two weeks....what is???


@imp, noted. Sasa, si mcharazane to liven up this boring day. ....we need a show guys ;-)


@Butterflyke recently alleged that @McReggae is one and the same @wazualet who is 101% pro-RAO and GOR.
smile smile


Also pro Man Utd 101% I guess, are you you are not accusing @Butterflyke wrongly? How many people allege you are so and so and who goes on to insinuate the same in multiple thread more than the imposter himslef......does it mean you are the imposter?


@Butterfyk may be 101%Man U, but the @wazualet handle of yours is pro-GOR and RAO. "she" is not called @Butterflyk but some Angelic name.


You didn't understand my response a zilch!!!!


You are a goose egg!!!!
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McReggae
#88 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:23:08 PM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC) Ltd Vs China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC)


The contract should have been given to the former!
The latter is well versed with matters road and bridges!


An the former have a history with in-expenive railway construction in Africa and even Istrael!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Impunity
#89 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:29:50 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
McReggae wrote:
Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
China Railway Construction Corporation (CRCC) Ltd Vs China Road and Bridge Corporation (CRBC)


The contract should have been given to the former!
The latter is well versed with matters road and bridges!


An the former have a history with in-expenive railway construction in Africa and even Istrael!!!!


The latter constructed some road bridges in Thailand which once collapsed on innocent cars parked below...I wonder what will happen should some viaduct collapse on some Elephants below in Tsavo or on RAO while on some open air campaign in Kibera.

Sad Sad Sad
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poundfoolish
#90 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:49:11 PM
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Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 2,458
Location: Nairobi
King G wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Wizi ni mbaya!!! wizi ni mbaya!! wizi ni mbaya!! i hope this story will make people chunguza and if someone is culpable - ANYONGWE!! however, this cannot be compared with Goldenberg! Goldenberg is synoymous to being conned... money gone and nothing to show for it. this is like BVR... something to show but overpriced beyond reason.


Overpriced and not working, bado ni wizi.


Like the Pipeline pump stations.. ?

Aki they made the old man cut ribbons and fungua those to plaques. na hakuna pumps.
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