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josimar wrote:Bottom line is that things do not look rosy on the ground. And which are these things that have gone sooo wrong in 8 months? How many huge tenders have been given out? How many positions have been shared out? The cabinet looked ok. Which others are they complaining about?
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Are they fighting for the common man?
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sheri wrote:Are they fighting for the common man? No. Tenders. Appointments.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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iller wrote:madollar wrote:iller wrote:As much as guys are trying to downplay this thing, iko kitu. When shit hits the fan, it wont be pretty for them and that is if it hasn't hit already They say politics has no permanent friends but i dont see WSR going back to yule jamma wa kitendawili infact he has very limited options.The most likely scenario is a rebellion by the kalenjin abandoning ruto if this so called grieveances are not addresed True, in my opinion WSR is the one who has most to loose if things go south, and from the look of things he has two options, 1, ignore kales demands and risk being dethroned as their 'king' and things remain well between him and UK or ,2, join the bandwagon and remain 'king' but then create a rift btwn himself and UK. Either way come 2017 he will be at loss unless UK ajinyenyekee and bows to pressure from kales and lets them have their way.  hope guys dont roast me alive You people forget man Giddy.....those in doubt please consider this; the only thing standing between the Mt. Kenya mafia and the destruction of Ruto is the feared Kalenjin military establishment, both serving and retired. It is the only reason the Mt. Kenya fear Ruto. However, this Kalenjin military establishment is entirely made up of Moi loyalists, not Ruto's. Therefore to these Generals, Gideon Moi represents more the face of the boss than Ruto does. If the Ruto destruction script is drawn by Daniel arap Moi and Mama Ngina Kenyatta, the Kalenjin will do nothing about it. The arrows will be neutralized as long as the Mt. Kenya have the assurance of the Kalenjin Generals! And Gideon Moi will join the ticket he should have joined in 2002. Now beat that!......hii ni Kenya!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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McReggae wrote:iller wrote:madollar wrote:iller wrote:As much as guys are trying to downplay this thing, iko kitu. When shit hits the fan, it wont be pretty for them and that is if it hasn't hit already They say politics has no permanent friends but i dont see WSR going back to yule jamma wa kitendawili infact he has very limited options.The most likely scenario is a rebellion by the kalenjin abandoning ruto if this so called grieveances are not addresed True, in my opinion WSR is the one who has most to loose if things go south, and from the look of things he has two options, 1, ignore kales demands and risk being dethroned as their 'king' and things remain well between him and UK or ,2, join the bandwagon and remain 'king' but then create a rift btwn himself and UK. Either way come 2017 he will be at loss unless UK ajinyenyekee and bows to pressure from kales and lets them have their way.  hope guys dont roast me alive You people forget man Giddy.....those in doubt please consider this; the only thing standing between the Mt. Kenya mafia and the destruction of Ruto is the feared Kalenjin military establishment, both serving and retired. It is the only reason the Mt. Kenya fear Ruto. However, this Kalenjin military establishment is entirely made up of Moi loyalists, not Ruto's. Therefore to these Generals, Gideon Moi represents more the face of the boss than Ruto does. If the Ruto destruction script is drawn by Daniel arap Moi and Mama Ngina Kenyatta, the Kalenjin will do nothing about it. The arrows will be neutralized as long as the Mt. Kenya have the assurance of the Kalenjin Generals! And Gideon Moi will join the ticket he should have joined in 2002. Now beat that!......hii ni Kenya!!!! Thats some theory you have there the only problem man giddy never connects with the common kalenjin like ruto and moi have and one alfred keter is doing @iller is right WSR sticks it out with UK but he must find a way to quell the coming rebellion which will most likely dethrone him
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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madollar wrote:McReggae wrote:iller wrote:madollar wrote:iller wrote:As much as guys are trying to downplay this thing, iko kitu. When shit hits the fan, it wont be pretty for them and that is if it hasn't hit already They say politics has no permanent friends but i dont see WSR going back to yule jamma wa kitendawili infact he has very limited options.The most likely scenario is a rebellion by the kalenjin abandoning ruto if this so called grieveances are not addresed True, in my opinion WSR is the one who has most to loose if things go south, and from the look of things he has two options, 1, ignore kales demands and risk being dethroned as their 'king' and things remain well between him and UK or ,2, join the bandwagon and remain 'king' but then create a rift btwn himself and UK. Either way come 2017 he will be at loss unless UK ajinyenyekee and bows to pressure from kales and lets them have their way.  hope guys dont roast me alive You people forget man Giddy.....those in doubt please consider this; the only thing standing between the Mt. Kenya mafia and the destruction of Ruto is the feared Kalenjin military establishment, both serving and retired. It is the only reason the Mt. Kenya fear Ruto. However, this Kalenjin military establishment is entirely made up of Moi loyalists, not Ruto's. Therefore to these Generals, Gideon Moi represents more the face of the boss than Ruto does. If the Ruto destruction script is drawn by Daniel arap Moi and Mama Ngina Kenyatta, the Kalenjin will do nothing about it. The arrows will be neutralized as long as the Mt. Kenya have the assurance of the Kalenjin Generals! And Gideon Moi will join the ticket he should have joined in 2002. Now beat that!......hii ni Kenya!!!! Thats some theory you have there the only problem man giddy never connects with the common kalenjin like ruto and moi have and one alfred keter is doing @iller is right WSR sticks it out with UK but he must find a way to quell the coming rebellion which will most likely dethrone him Rayalty can be made to connect just like it happened to Mtembezi who now has a cult following!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Quote:And which are these things that have gone sooo long in 8 months? How many huge tenders have been given out? How many positions have been shared out? The cabinet looked ok. Which others are they complaining about? Politics and leadership in Kenya has never been about serving the masses, it is about securing wealth. We have seen launches of massive infrastructure projects ; railway , greenfield terminal and others are yet to come such as coal , lng and Lappset. URP is missing out on the cake and that is making them uneasy because the other partner has so far taken charge of the rail and greenfield terminal. There is money to be made in these tenders.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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josimar wrote:Quote:And which are these things that have gone sooo long in 8 months? How many huge tenders have been given out? How many positions have been shared out? The cabinet looked ok. Which others are they complaining about? Politics and leadership in Kenya has never been about serving the masses, it is about securing wealth. We have seen launches of massive infrastructure projects ; railway , greenfield terminal and others are yet to come such as coal , lng and Lappset. URP is missing out on the cake and that is making them uneasy because the other partner has so far taken charge of the rail and greenfield terminal. There is money to be made in these tenders. Some of these projects are not Jubilee projects but projects of the coalition garment, they were long shared when Billy Wailer was in the cold so URP hawawezi pata!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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McReggae wrote:josimar wrote:Quote:And which are these things that have gone sooo long in 8 months? How many huge tenders have been given out? How many positions have been shared out? The cabinet looked ok. Which others are they complaining about? Politics and leadership in Kenya has never been about serving the masses, it is about securing wealth. We have seen launches of massive infrastructure projects ; railway , greenfield terminal and others are yet to come such as coal , lng and Lappset. URP is missing out on the cake and that is making them uneasy because the other partner has so far taken charge of the rail and greenfield terminal. There is money to be made in these tenders. Some of these projects are not Jubilee projects but projects of the coalition garment, they were long shared when Billy Wailer was in the cold so URP hawawezi pata!!!! Infact I think its all the major projects. Now I wonder why they dont want to wait for the 1m acre irrigation project
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:McReggae wrote:josimar wrote:Quote:And which are these things that have gone sooo long in 8 months? How many huge tenders have been given out? How many positions have been shared out? The cabinet looked ok. Which others are they complaining about? Politics and leadership in Kenya has never been about serving the masses, it is about securing wealth. We have seen launches of massive infrastructure projects ; railway , greenfield terminal and others are yet to come such as coal , lng and Lappset. URP is missing out on the cake and that is making them uneasy because the other partner has so far taken charge of the rail and greenfield terminal. There is money to be made in these tenders. Some of these projects are not Jubilee projects but projects of the coalition garment, they were long shared when Billy Wailer was in the cold so URP hawawezi pata!!!! Infact I think its all the major projects. Now I wonder why they dont want to wait for the 1m acre irrigation project Yeah plus the project for cattle insurance and 5 international stadia and the likes!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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