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Uhuru the Peace Maker?
kenmac
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:16:25 PM
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kikuyu town or limuru. after seeing lorries bringing in idps, the locals wanted to attack members perceived to be from other communities at bata shoe company to retaliate.

lewis nguyai should be in the video with uk. #memory
......Ecclesiastes
Sansa
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:49:31 PM
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seppuku wrote:
And that it would pop up only 2 months ago on YouTube. I am yet to see another copy of it there. Which is not to say there isn't one. There isn't too much value in trying to investigate the particular rock under which I have been living.


I've found a couple more. One from 2 years ago and a short clip from 5 years ago.
simonkabz
#23 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:35:15 AM
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The many Luos living in Thika should be very grateful to UK. He came round and calmed the angry residents, and no one was touched! Unfortunately, the kangaroo court can come around n use this as evidence of "how influential" UK was back then. Its simply one centre for supreme absurdity and grand insanity.

The moment this ICC bug is dead n buried I shall be one peaceful man. The trauma of the PEV I have it to date still very fresh, and when I see fellows right here in wazua attempting the same 2007 tricks I lose it. I lost friends n family, as we are rather spread out accross the country. I did some state duties in western during the thick of things in Jan 07, Traversing the volatile south n north rift, thru kisumu to katch, witnessing all the mayhem, bloodletting, property destruction, insults, ethnic profiling.

Trucks upon trucks of IDPs in Subukia, Nyahururu, Naivasha, Nyeri, Thika, Kiambu, Nakuru. .....It was a tinderbox, and a retaliation was more than CERTAIN. It doesn't require any planning or incitement for SCARED, ANGRY DESPERATE people to go baserk. And on 26th, crap hit the fan. Followed immediately by calls for peace! What a tragedy! You call for peace when "my" people are attacked? While all along the song had been "No PEACE without justice" when "THESE PEOPLE" were being butchered, raped, sodomised, infected with HIV and "being taught a lesson"?

Who were these victims we keep hearing about? I roughly estimate more than 70% of direct PEV victims voted uhuruto, so whose justice is the kangaroo court seeking? Does this court ever reckon that millions of indirect victims like myself, also require justice?

In my mind, one critical personality escaped Ocampo, largely coz of his position then, and his underhand connections with the evil societies n the West~expunging his name completely from all reports. And with that, ICC made the biggest mistake. ...deviding a polarized state further, driving it closer n closer to the bottomless pit of chaos n instability, and appearing to victimise the target community of 2007. Eti mzungu ni mungu so tumuabudu, my jigger foot!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
kamundu
#24 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:36:39 AM
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Sansa wrote:
Who's familiar with this neighborhood? If the person has good memory maybe they can tell us if this is how it looked (building wise) at that time.


Looks like Kikuyu town. Is pretty much the same today
Peace in our Homeland.
kiash
#25 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:23:16 AM
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I also came across this video some times back guess when Wambui said they will block the airport and could not really believe the same guy is on the Hague list. I was to start a Fbook page saying no to Hague . I find it funny that at the same time wa have videos of call for mass action.
My question to this day is as things are (assumption),Uhuru organised central violence, Ruto organised Riftvalley violence, so who organised Kisumu violence? that is where things started. And not forgetting Kibera !!
ZZE123
#26 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:38:52 AM
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In most cases what is said in public and what is said in private are the opposite of each other.Sad
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
poundfoolish
#27 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:49:45 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
The many Luos living in Thika should be very grateful to UK. He came round and calmed the angry residents, and no one was touched! Unfortunately, the kangaroo court can come around n use this as evidence of "how influential" UK was back then. Its simply one centre for supreme absurdity and grand insanity.

The moment this ICC bug is dead n buried I shall be one peaceful man. The trauma of the PEV I have it to date still very fresh, and when I see fellows right here in wazua attempting the same 2007 tricks I lose it. I lost friends n family, as we are rather spread out accross the country. I did some state duties in western during the thick of things in Jan 07, Traversing the volatile south n north rift, thru kisumu to katch, witnessing all the mayhem, bloodletting, property destruction, insults, ethnic profiling.

Trucks upon trucks of IDPs in Subukia, Nyahururu, Naivasha, Nyeri, Thika, Kiambu, Nakuru. .....It was a tinderbox, and a retaliation was more than CERTAIN. It doesn't require any planning or incitement for SCARED, ANGRY DESPERATE people to go baserk. And on 26th, crap hit the fan. Followed immediately by calls for peace! What a tragedy! You call for peace when "my" people are attacked? While all along the song had been "No PEACE without justice" when "THESE PEOPLE" were being butchered, raped, sodomised, infected with HIV and "being taught a lesson"?

Who were these victims we keep hearing about? I roughly estimate more than 70% of direct PEV victims voted uhuruto, so whose justice is the kangaroo court seeking? Does this court ever reckon that millions of indirect victims like myself, also require justice?

In my mind, one critical personality escaped Ocampo, largely coz of his position then, and his underhand connections with the evil societies n the West~expunging his name completely from all reports. And with that, ICC made the biggest mistake. ...deviding a polarized state further, driving it closer n closer to the bottomless pit of chaos n instability, and appearing to victimise the target community of 2007. Eti mzungu ni mungu so tumuabudu, my jigger foot!



I am sorry for your predicaments but the harsh truth of the reality is that the ICC operates differently. The single most question being "Was there a pre planned attempt to displace, kill or maim a certain group of people be it by tribe, creed, race or religion?"

That is the question the ICC ask.. once there is a sniff of that, they pounce
Sadly the young men are carrying the burden of departed old men.. they were promised to be head of their communities.. and they are..


That is why ODM was keen to shout that chaos in its zones were spontaneous.. sadly those in Naivasha,and larger Rift Valley, as you have insinuated somewhere in your long rant were pre planned.. hence the ICC
ODM was also smart to call for mass action.. Mass action does not mean chaos, infact its a democratic right.. Though what they actually ment when calling for Mass action was 'cause chaos'to give them some bargaining ground.

So your pedestrian thinking of mass action = war and an eye for an eye stopped the mayhem is nothing but a selfish human nature keenly observed in Africans (sorry to say, Helmet in place)

Hasira zako hazitakusaidia.. but sleep in peace.. the dynamic duo will be set free

but after that sleep in fear again because once they are out of the scene Keter will have waited his 20years and he shall remind 'his people' how they were kept out of the railway deal..

now forgive forget and move on... I did
TAZ
#28 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:08:35 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:


That is why ODM was keen to shout that chaos in its zones were spontaneous.. sadly those in Naivasha,and larger Rift Valley, as you have insinuated somewhere in your long rant were pre planned.. hence the ICC
ODM was also smart to call for mass action.. Mass action does not mean chaos, infact its a democratic right.. Though what they actually ment when calling for Mass action was 'cause chaos'to give them some bargaining ground.


Sad Sad Sad

Use of Coded language, isn't that what Sang is being accused of but ikifika kwa wengine its being "smart"....
McReggae
#29 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:13:01 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
The many Luos living in Thika should be very grateful to UK. He came round and calmed the angry residents, and no one was touched! Unfortunately, the kangaroo court can come around n use this as evidence of "how influential" UK was back then. Its simply one centre for supreme absurdity and grand insanity.

The moment this ICC bug is dead n buried I shall be one peaceful man. The trauma of the PEV I have it to date still very fresh, and when I see fellows right here in wazua attempting the same 2007 tricks I lose it. I lost friends n family, as we are rather spread out accross the country. I did some state duties in western during the thick of things in Jan 07, Traversing the volatile south n north rift, thru kisumu to katch, witnessing all the mayhem, bloodletting, property destruction, insults, ethnic profiling.

Trucks upon trucks of IDPs in Subukia, Nyahururu, Naivasha, Nyeri, Thika, Kiambu, Nakuru. .....It was a tinderbox, and a retaliation was more than CERTAIN. It doesn't require any planning or incitement for SCARED, ANGRY DESPERATE people to go baserk. And on 26th, crap hit the fan. Followed immediately by calls for peace! What a tragedy! You call for peace when "my" people are attacked? While all along the song had been "No PEACE without justice" when "THESE PEOPLE" were being butchered, raped, sodomised, infected with HIV and "being taught a lesson"?

Who were these victims we keep hearing about? I roughly estimate more than 70% of direct PEV victims voted uhuruto, so whose justice is the kangaroo court seeking? Does this court ever reckon that millions of indirect victims like myself, also require justice?

In my mind, one critical personality escaped Ocampo, largely coz of his position then, and his underhand connections with the evil societies n the West~expunging his name completely from all reports. And with that, ICC made the biggest mistake. ...deviding a polarized state further, driving it closer n closer to the bottomless pit of chaos n instability, and appearing to victimise the target community of 2007. Eti mzungu ni mungu so tumuabudu, my jigger foot!



I am sorry for your predicaments but the harsh truth of the reality is that the ICC operates differently. The single most question being "Was there a pre planned attempt to displace, kill or maim a certain group of people be it by tribe, creed, race or religion?"

That is the question the ICC ask.. once there is a sniff of that, they pounce
Sadly the young men are carrying the burden of departed old men.. they were promised to be head of their communities.. and they are..


That is why ODM was keen to shout that chaos in its zones were spontaneous.. sadly those in Naivasha,and larger Rift Valley, as you have insinuated somewhere in your long rant were pre planned.. hence the ICC
ODM was also smart to call for mass action.. Mass action does not mean chaos, infact its a democratic right.. Though what they actually ment when calling for Mass action was 'cause chaos'to give them some bargaining ground.

So your pedestrian thinking of mass action = war and an eye for an eye stopped the mayhem is nothing but a selfish human nature keenly observed in Africans (sorry to say, Helmet in place)

Hasira zako hazitakusaidia.. but sleep in peace.. the dynamic duo will be set free

but after that sleep in fear again because once they are out of the scene Keter will have waited his 20years and he shall remind 'his people' how they were kept out of the railway deal..

now forgive forget and move on... I did


Very well said....I still remember how we shipped guys from Thika and other Nairobi environs, and when they came for them hawakuwa ndio wakaendea wale wa naivasha who assummed Naivasha was cosmopolitan and would be safe!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Bigchick
#30 Posted : Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:19:56 AM
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kamundu wrote:
Sansa wrote:
Who's familiar with this neighborhood? If the person has good memory maybe they can tell us if this is how it looked (building wise) at that time.


Looks like Kikuyu town. Is pretty much the same today



If I remember well that was Gitaru on the Nakuru Nairobi highway before Sigona.
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