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Medical workers strike. ....
Museveni
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:16:30 AM
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The reason why some functions like security were not devolved is the bare fact that this would accelerate tribal animosity. Imagine if all security officers in Turkana.. Moyale.. Marsabit were under the county govt. One, all 'non-residents' would have been fired long ago under the veil of creating jobs for the residents, which is basically arming the warring neigbhours. This undermines the push for national unity. The county govts were an excellent idea, especially for functions like infrastructure development but when the push to act autonomously rages as if we are not one country with several counties, there is a HUGE problem. The executive teams & county assemblies may think they are looking out for 'their' people but we are witnessing a turning point in entrenching TRIBALISM in ESSENTIAL services and institutions in the country as counties compete to fill ranks with their 'own'.

Medical professionals shouldn't even use the uncertainty of their pay as a bargain against this move or even the lack of legislation to guide the move. The huge, snow white elephant in the room is Tribalism. It is happening and it will get worse. And since there are not enough learned personel in each county in every sector, next target will be the education sector. Sad situation if not tamed early.
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
maka
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:34:14 AM
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REPUBLIC OF KENYA
IN THE HIGH COURT OF KENYA AT NAIROBI
(CENTRAL REGISTRY)
JR No. 317 OF 2013


IN THE MATTER OF AN APPLICATION FOR JUDICIAL REVIEW IN THE FORM OF ORDERS OF CERTIORARI AND PROHIBITION
AND
IN THE MATTER OF THE DEVOLUTION OF HEALTH SERVICES TO COUNTY LEVEL
AND
IN THE MATTER OF THE FOURTH SCHEDULE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF KENYA 2010
AND
IN THE MATTER OF KENYA GAZETTE SUPP. NO. 116 (LEGAL NOTICES 137-182)
AND
IN THE MATTER OF THE TRANSITION TO DEVOLVED GOVERNMENT ACT, 2012

BETWEEN

REPUBLIC...........................................................................................APPLICANT
AND
THE TRANSITION AUTHORITY....................................................... RESPONDENT
COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS……………………………………………..INTERESTED PARTY

EX PARTE APPLICANTS:
1. KENYA MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS, PHARMACISTS AND DENTISTS UNION (KMPDU)
2. KENYA NATIONAL UNION OF NURSES (KNUN)
3. KENYA HEALTH PROFESSIONALS SOCIETY (KHPS)

NOTICE OF MOTION
(Under Order 53 Rule 3 & 4 of the Civil Procedure Rules, 2010 and all enabling provisions of law.)

TAKE NOTICE that the Ex-parte Applicants will move the Court on the ……………..day of ………………………………2013 at 9.00 O'clock in the fore noon or soon thereafter as may appear in the daily cause list for the hearing of an application on behalf of the said Ex-parte Applicant praying for the following orders:

1. THAT the Honourable Court be pleased to issue an Order of Certiorari to remove into this Honourable Court and quash Legal Notices No. 137-182 (Kenya Gazette Supplement No. 116) being a Notice issued by the Transition Authority on the 9th of August 2013 in relation to the transfer of County Health Services.

2. THAT the Honourable Court be pleased to issue an order of Prohibition prohibiting the Transition Authority or any other body whether by itself, or any of it employees or agents or any person claiming to act under the direction of the said Authority from proceeding to enforce Legal Notice No. 137-182 (Kenya Gazette Supplement No. 116) in respect only to the transfer of functions relating to County Health Services.

3. THAT consequent to the grant of prayers (1) and (2) above the Honourable Court be pleased to issue such further directions as may be necessary to give effect to the foregoing orders.

4. THAT the costs of and occasioned by the Application be provided for.

AND TAKE NOTICE THAT THIS APPLICATION is based on the following grounds, the grounds set out in the accompanying statement dated the 30th day of August 2013 and attached to the chamber summons application for leave and the supporting affidavit of SULTANI MATENDECHERO sworn on the 30th Day of August 2013;

a. The Transition Authority is mandated under Section 15 of the Sixth Schedule to the Constitution and Sections 2, 3 and 4 (2) (c) of the Transition to Devolved Government Act, 2012 to provide a legal and institutional framework for a co-ordinated transition to the devolved system of Government while ensuring continued delivery of services to the Citizens.
b. Part of the services and functions set out for Devolution under Schedule 4 of the Constitution include County Health Services.
c. The said Transition Authority is required to at all times comply with the law and specifically the Constitution of Kenya 2010, The County Government Act 2012, The Transition to Devolved Government Act 2012 and all other provisions of the law.
d. In particular;
1. The Constitution of Kenya 2010 at Article 175 requires that County Governments have reliable sources of revenue to enable them to govern and deliver devolved services effectively.
2. The co-ordinated transition to the devolved system of Government envisaged in the Transition to devolved Government Act must be undertaken side by side with the continued delivery of QUALITY services to citizens which duty is vested on the Transition Authority (“The Authority”) in Section 7 of the Act.
3. The said Authority is required, while carrying out this statutory mandate, to comply with the provisions of Section 7 and 24 of the Act in toto and also ensure that the ideals of Article 43 of the Constitution of Kenya are at all times protected and effected.
4. The Authority has in contravention of the law and ultra vires caused to be published Kenya Gazette Supplement No. 116, Legislative Supplement No. 51 Containing Legal Notices No. 137 to 182 on the 9th of August 2013.
5. The Constitution devotes substantial attention to the ideals of good governance in Articles 10, 73 and 232 which form the platform for ensuring a smooth process of devolution which ideals the Authority has not fully complied with.
6. In transferring the Health Component to the 47 Counties, the Applicant has grossly violated the provisions of Sections 7 and 24 of the Transition to Devolved Government Act (and other pertinent portions of the same statute) and has failed to adhere to the ideals of Article 43 of the Constitution in toto.
e. In acting contrary to the law the Authority serving has acted irrationally, and in abuse of its statutory powers and if not prohibited, will cause great hardship and loss both to the Applicant's members and the general public without justification in law.

DATED at Nairobi this………………...day of....................................2013
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:38:14 AM
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The T.A never at any one moment followed the laid down procedure for devolving medical services...
possunt quia posse videntur
kingfisher
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:43:03 AM
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Muheani wrote:
If it happens..that will be really sad.


it will happen!! and most likely nothing will give. someone has mentioned up on this thread that we passed something we did not know.... why do the medics have a problem with health sector devolution today?? what did they expect of it in 2010?? why cant they tell us what they expected then we weigh that?? What solution are they offering? You can not just say we wont go to the counties, at least try to offer a way out and you shall be listened to.

Ok here is how it has been devolved...

DISTRIBUTION OF FUNCTIONS BETWEEN THE
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY
GOVERNMENTS

National Government
.
.
.
23. National referral health facilities.
.
.
28. Health policy.


County Governments

2. County health services, including, in particular—
(a) county health facilities and pharmacies;
(b) ambulance services;
(c) promotion of primary health care;
(d) licensing and control of undertakings that sell food to
the public;
(e) veterinary services (excluding regulation of the
profession);
(f) cemeteries, funeral parlours and crematoria; and
(g) refuse removal, refuse dumps and solid waste disposal.
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
maka
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:55:57 AM
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@Kingfisher there is a procedure to be followed to devolve essential services...health issues is one of them already two patients have died am hearing from the news...the government had 36 months to do the devolution slowly and carefully they rushed it and did at once instead of phases...why the rush?Take time and read the Transition to devolved Government act it had set clear guidelines to be followed...
possunt quia posse videntur
Ole Lenku
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:58:18 AM
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Posts: 402
kingfisher wrote:
Muheani wrote:
If it happens..that will be really sad.


it will happen!! and most likely nothing will give. someone has mentioned up on this thread that we passed something we did not know.... why do the medics have a problem with health sector devolution today?? what did they expect of it in 2010?? why cant they tell us what they expected then we weigh that?? What solution are they offering? You can not just say we wont go to the counties, at least try to offer a way out and you shall be listened to.

Ok here is how it has been devolved...

DISTRIBUTION OF FUNCTIONS BETWEEN THE
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY
GOVERNMENTS

National Government
.
.
.
23. National referral health facilities.
.
.
28. Health policy.


County Governments

2. County health services, including, in particular—
(a) county health facilities and pharmacies;
(b) ambulance services;
(c) promotion of primary health care;
(d) licensing and control of undertakings that sell food to
the public;
(e) veterinary services (excluding regulation of the
profession);
(f) cemeteries, funeral parlours and crematoria; and
(g) refuse removal, refuse dumps and solid waste disposal.

Those points have been put across eloquently here and if you dont understand then you can't be helped.
maka
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:11:01 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Ole Lenku wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Muheani wrote:
If it happens..that will be really sad.


it will happen!! and most likely nothing will give. someone has mentioned up on this thread that we passed something we did not know.... why do the medics have a problem with health sector devolution today?? what did they expect of it in 2010?? why cant they tell us what they expected then we weigh that?? What solution are they offering? You can not just say we wont go to the counties, at least try to offer a way out and you shall be listened to.

Ok here is how it has been devolved...

DISTRIBUTION OF FUNCTIONS BETWEEN THE
NATIONAL GOVERNMENT AND THE COUNTY
GOVERNMENTS

National Government
.
.
.
23. National referral health facilities.
.
.
28. Health policy.


County Governments

2. County health services, including, in particular—
(a) county health facilities and pharmacies;
(b) ambulance services;
(c) promotion of primary health care;
(d) licensing and control of undertakings that sell food to
the public;
(e) veterinary services (excluding regulation of the
profession);
(f) cemeteries, funeral parlours and crematoria; and
(g) refuse removal, refuse dumps and solid waste disposal.

Those points have been put across eloquently here and if you dont understand then you can't be helped.


Nobody is arguing about devolution,that is a must but the procedure to be used in devolving this services is the issue if you cannot understand that then you cant be helped....
possunt quia posse videntur
Zenge
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:36:37 PM
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Doctors and Health workers are the some of the most learned people in this country. If they never bothered writing a memorandum to the constitution review commision/ the Committee of experts, about the inconsistencies in the chapter on health care, then i wonder what is to be expected of the ordinary 'wanjiku'. A whole three years (or more) everyone presented their case to the various fora discussing constitution review. where were the learned Doctors??? Answer- running their consultancies!I really empathise with the situation but A constitution is supreme and should be followed to the letter. HCWs should be lobbying to have the numbers to call for a referendum to streamline not only the jobs aspect but also policy and regulation.
kollabo
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:47:51 PM
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Joined: 2/3/2012
Posts: 1,317
Ubaks & Pamba told people to pass the Constitution first then deal with the errors later. Chickens are here with us now...

DN pg 55 shows interviewees for Elgeyo Marakwet County public service board...a harbinger of things to come?
Ole Lenku
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:12:10 PM
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Posts: 402
Zenge wrote:
Doctors and Health workers are the some of the most learned people in this country. If they never bothered writing a memorandum to the constitution review commision/ the Committee of experts, about the inconsistencies in the chapter on health care, then i wonder what is to be expected of the ordinary 'wanjiku'. A whole three years (or more) everyone presented their case to the various fora discussing constitution review. where were the learned Doctors??? Answer- running their consultancies!I really empathise with the situation but A constitution is supreme and should be followed to the letter. HCWs should be lobbying to have the numbers to call for a referendum to streamline not only the jobs aspect but also policy and regulation.

What makes you think those avenues were not pursued?
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