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civil service retrenchment ?
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#11 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:48:59 PM
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choices have consequences. We made this choice in 2010 when we voted in the constitution that @impunity calls activist katiba. We could attempt to change it, if media and civil society will allow us. But still, most structural changes will have to wait for 2018! Lord help us!!
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#12 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:52:29 PM
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jguru wrote:
All civil servants 55yrs and above are going home. The process has already started.

The retirement age is 60yrs so civil servants should kaa ngumu. Politicians come and go but the civil servants remain. Those same civil servants served moi, Kibaki, Kibaki & Raila, and now Uhuru govt. So uhuruto should go slowly. Otherwise the civil servants and their families/supporters, wellwishers and wananchi should kick out uhuruto in 2017.
jaggernaut
#13 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 9:59:14 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
counties shouldn't hire till the central govt staff are exhausted

True. Am always seeing adverts for county govt jobs while uhuruto want to sack central govt staff. Why should a county hire a medical officer while we already have a serving medical superintendent hired by Public Service Commission and posted to the area. The central govt staff should be redeployed to the counties they are already serving, not governors hiring their cronies.
ecstacy
#14 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:08:44 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
counties shouldn't hire till the central govt staff are exhausted

True. Am always seeing adverts for county govt jobs while uhuruto want to sack central govt staff. The central govt staff should be deployed to the counties, not governors hiring their cronies.

Clear hangovers from the old katiba. Who in the new constitution has powers to hire staff at county level??..
jaggernaut
#15 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:15:42 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
counties shouldn't hire till the central govt staff are exhausted

True. Am always seeing adverts for county govt jobs while uhuruto want to sack central govt staff. The central govt staff should be deployed to the counties, not governors hiring their cronies.

Clear hangovers from the old katiba. Who in the new constitution has powers to hire staff at county level??..

So what should happen to a medical officer in Kitui who has been serving the Kenya govt for 15yrs and is just 45yrs while retirement age is 60yrs? Send him home and hire a local mkamba under the new katiba?
Shak
#16 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:18:35 PM
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Some counties like Baringo are rejecting staff seconded from the national governmment and hiring their own people from their tribe. This devolution is actually the majimbo people were afraid of
jaggernaut
#17 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:24:40 PM
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Shak wrote:
Some counties like Baringo are rejecting staff seconded from the national governmment and hiring their own people from their tribe. This devolution is actually the majimbo people were afraid of

Am seeing adverts in the papers for candidates shortlisted for various county jobs and am very worried. It's tribalism 100%. My parents are retired civil servants who worked in mombasa, kisumu and Nakuru, infact anywhere a civil servant wanted to work they would just ask for a transfer. Kenya is doomed under this new primitive katiba.
jaggernaut
#18 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:38:27 PM
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Shak wrote:
Some counties like Baringo are rejecting staff seconded from the national governmment and hiring their own people from their tribe. This devolution is actually the majimbo people were afraid of

Even in next door machakos county, they have said that it's only mkamba doctors who should be employed. Picture this, a luo/okuyo doctor can work in the US, Britain, France, Mongolia etc, but NOT in machakos county. What kind of ujinga is this that came with the new katiba? That is why i voted NO!
murchr
#19 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:39:01 PM
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Wait.....breath. Some of these jobs have been overtaken by events...kwa kiswahili, zimepitwa na wakati. Tea gals, messagers secretaries some filing clerks some drivers, mechanics truly speaking the majority of the workforce is in this sector. These people can be given a "handshake" for a job well done.
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Rankaz13
#20 Posted : Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:41:25 PM
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Shak wrote:
Some counties like Baringo are rejecting staff seconded from the national governmment and hiring their own people from their tribe. This devolution is actually the majimbo people were afraid of



The way I see it, unfortunately, is that implementation of the county system is going to institutionalize and entrench tribalism like never before, the self-same majimbo we were afraid of. Just the other day, a relative who comes from a different county but has settled in my county by virtue of marriage was forced to run all over looking for documents from gov't offices to confirm her status and identity, all because some other gov't dep't didn't wanna hire her on the basis that she isn't from the local tribe.Sad

Part of the reason for the rising wage bill is that most counties are insisting on hiring their own while staff at HQs who previously performed the now devolved functions are left under-utilized.
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