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I SUPPORT THE NEW PRESS LAWS.
tmatekwa
#1 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 7:53:57 AM
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Repressive or not, it is nice to see the media on the receiving end....after so many distortions, misplaced sense of self righteousness, biased reporting, half cooked articles....


THANKS TO UHURUTO...
mkeiyd
#2 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:24:41 AM
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tmatekwa wrote:
Repressive or not, it is nice to see the media on the receiving end....after so many distortions, misplaced sense of self righteousness, biased reporting, half cooked articles....


THANKS TO UHURUTO...


I'm not liking that law.

For when the media gets gagged,we, the hoi polloi get screwed by the powers that be.
murchr
#3 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 9:22:09 AM
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I like it too.....its time people became responsible
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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washiku
#4 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:17:58 AM
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Honestly, I am not sure whether to support or not. Why? Because I am yet to know which areas are oppressive yet the media has been screaming they are draconian...

1. The media says that the fines are too high. Why fear the fines if what you report is truth..if you can support it with facts...if you are not "paid" by the "others" to spoil the "others" name in whichever way?

2. The composition of the dreaded committee...The law says it shud be independent of Commercial and govt interests. Why does the media want to handle it themselves yet they have direct interest commercially and otherwise? Further, the committee is made up of interested groups from all sectors, including KNUT. The govt representation is on the minority. How exactly is the govt gagging them? How would the minister gag them if his/her representation is on the minority?

3. Which other sections is the media against? I am also sure the media is an interested party in this and thus I dont expect them to tell us all the truth about what is happening. Is there an independent Wazuan with the facts who can enlighten me on these issues?

4. If in deed there are draconian sections, after how long can the law be amended in parliament? Is it 6 months? Maybe that would be enough time to have seen whether the laws really makes sense to the nation or not.

If I am enlightened on the above, I will be sure who is telling us the truth.

Shak
#5 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:18:35 AM
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Westgate was the last straw. The images and videos they kept showing us was the height of insensitivity
muganda
#6 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:36:06 AM
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The naughty students in class want the disciplinarian appointed from their senior classmates.

Since most of their gimmicks are directed at their class teachers, they say there'll be no freedom to learn and enjoy class anymore. The primary object of their ridicule will administer discipline thoroughly.

As a compromise, they agree where their senior classmates do a biased job, the aggrieved teachers can appeal to parents, and pay for the parents time while at it.

What's the misunderstanding?

Ngalaka
#7 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:22:33 AM
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washiku wrote:
Honestly, I am not sure whether to support or not. Why? Because I am yet to know which areas are oppressive yet the media has been screaming they are draconian...

1. The media says that the fines are too high. Why fear the fines if what you report is truth..if you can support it with facts...if you are not "paid" by the "others" to spoil the "others" name in whichever way?

2. The composition of the dreaded committee...The law says it shud be independent of Commercial and govt interests. Why does the media want to handle it themselves yet they have direct interest commercially and otherwise? Further, the committee is made up of interested groups from all sectors, including KNUT. The govt representation is on the minority. How exactly is the govt gagging them? How would the minister gag them if his/her representation is on the minority?

3. Which other sections is the media against? I am also sure the media is an interested party in this and thus I dont expect them to tell us all the truth about what is happening. Is there an independent Wazuan with the facts who can enlighten me on these issues?

4. If in deed there are draconian sections, after how long can the law be amended in parliament? Is it 6 months? Maybe that would be enough time to have seen whether the laws really makes sense to the nation or not.

If I am enlightened on the above, I will be sure who is telling us the truth.



I actually agree with you for the most part.

Without the finer details, it remains tricky to take a position.

However, as concerns the levels of fines, - as a general rule I would argue that - fines need to be reasonable and relative to the wrong committed.

Of course on the one hand it is curious when the person thought to be the primary target for statutory regulation, starts whining about the suggested fines! Questioins are bound to arise about their motives and commitment not to deliberately break the law!
But then I peronally found myself very concerned over the new traffic rules where one risks a fine of up to 50K for such misdemeanors as overlapping of diverting via a petrol station to beat traffic!



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#8 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:10:52 PM
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@washeekoo, you are being too cautious. From your points, you support the law. For me, the moment media tried sensationalising the bill calling it draconian, affront to democracy etc, I wore anti-media goggles. I'm still trying to remove them every time they report on this law. And...we have @mukiha's complaint which media council never acted on. I support.
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murenj
#9 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:20:12 PM
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Media. Guys. Just move on. We the ordinary citizens are now used. To the government riding rough over us through rogue legislation.
madollar
#10 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:39:45 PM
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For PORK he does not read the newspapers according to him gazeti ni ya kufunga nyama ha ha ha waiting for macharia gaitho rebuttal .Me thinks jubilee have realised they cannot control the headlines to them its liwe liwalo
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