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No schools or health centres in new land subdivisions
african coloner
#1 Posted : Sunday, December 01, 2013 10:35:47 PM
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What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools? It very weard that there are no schools in Kiambu road yet all that land has been subdivided. A growing town like Ruaka has no health centre, police station or any public school. Roads are very narrow just like foot paths and yet the council are collecting taxes but cannot implement simple thing like this.
willin2learn
#2 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2013 3:25:10 PM
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african coloner wrote:
What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools? It very weard that there are no schools in Kiambu road yet all that land has been subdivided. A growing town like Ruaka has no health centre, police station or any public school. Roads are very narrow just like foot paths and yet the council are collecting taxes but cannot implement simple thing like this.


Most likely there were there in the initial plans then disappeared in the global warming. There is a public ground at Ruaka, meant for police post. I passed there sometime and i could see tell tale signs of encroachment. sad
MaichBlack
#3 Posted : Monday, December 02, 2013 6:19:13 PM
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The roads in some parts of Ruaka are too narrow even village foot paths are not that bad. Some are exactly the width of one car. You can be hijacked there in a heartbeat! You can even be blocked with a wheelbarrow! Every new building encroaches a few more metres than the one next to it! And this is replicated in very many other estates in Nairobi. It's like a jungle. People do whatever the feel like - provided you can grease a few hands! Very sad! There was a very nice playing field for a long time in Buruburu phase III for example. In one go the land was grabbed, subdivided and fellows built (different looking) houses. They even did gates for the 'new' court which blocked access to the genuine houses/courts. And what was done? Nothing! Everyone was in bed with everyone else (for the crooks) and genuine home owners can't get very far with their complaints. And that is why it's aptly called Nairobbery! Which extends to K-Robbery (Kenya Robbery!). Useless thugs all over!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
digitek1
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:17:53 AM
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on the contrary thats an opportunity for clinic, academies,clubs security firms etc
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
MaichBlack
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:55:53 PM
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digitek1 wrote:
on the contrary thats an opportunity for clinic, academies,clubs security firms etc


You totally did not get the point!!! Let's see if this helps...

african coloner wrote:
What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools?

Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
mv_ufanisi
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:53:42 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
on the contrary thats an opportunity for clinic, academies,clubs security firms etc


You totally did not get the point!!! Let's see if this helps...

african coloner wrote:
What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools?



The march towards slummification of Nairobi continues unabated.
Given the poor rule of law in Kenya, people will be better off buying housing in mega-projects like Tatu City which have their own governance and rules. Govt of Kenya is weakest at maintaining law and order. It's a jungle out there.
Which is why, it's sad to see Tatu City stuck in the mud for so long. It could have given Nairobi a semblance of first world living in a large municipality. Hopefully the likes of Centum can seize on this opportunity and deliver us from mediocrity by building large self sustaining developments with park areas and nice amenities.
That's a big reason why I'm waiting for one of these big projects with office space, health facilities entertainment etc in one area before I buy a home.
african coloner
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:40:02 PM
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The government should start addressing this small issues because later on they become social problem. Good planning go hand and hand with security. How do they expect children to survive without playing grounds. During our days every village had its own community ground.
oltome
#8 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:51:55 PM
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i personally blame it on the accrued culture of brokers purchasing agricultural land and proceed to subdivide into untenable land pieces (plots)then you have the gullible public rushing to buy these plots without asking themselves where the necessary infrastructure for their sustenance will come from i.e. water, sewerage, garbage disposal systems etc will come from. Lo and behold a few years down the line you have a full fledged slum or slum like living conditions...don't even get me started on the different housing styles...a mansion here, a a flat there, nyumba za mabati kule aii we really need help with our governance
simonkabz
#9 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:29:12 PM
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Zoning.......i have seen several highrise apartments going up in Ngoingwa, thika. Another nice estate is about to bite the dust!!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Fyatu
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:48:37 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
on the contrary thats an opportunity for clinic, academies,clubs security firms etc


You totally did not get the point!!! Let's see if this helps...

african coloner wrote:
What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools?



The march towards slummification of Nairobi continues unabated.
Given the poor rule of law in Kenya, people will be better off buying housing in mega-projects like Tatu City which have their own governance and rules. Govt of Kenya is weakest at maintaining law and order. It's a jungle out there.
Which is why, it's sad to see Tatu City stuck in the mud for so long. It could have given Nairobi a semblance of first world living in a large municipality. Hopefully the likes of Centum can seize on this opportunity and deliver us from mediocrity by building large self sustaining developments with park areas and nice amenities.
That's a big reason why I'm waiting for one of these big projects with office space, health facilities entertainment etc in one area before I buy a home.


Greed for lack of a better word will finish us. Only the likes of Tatu city will save us from this catastrophe
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
mv_ufanisi
#11 Posted : Friday, December 06, 2013 4:40:25 PM
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The problem is that now people are just buying a big parcel of land, subdividing it into 1/8ths and selling off with no consideration for roads, amenities etc. The last thing I'm going to do is live in such a set up. I want to live in a nicely planned municipality with good roads, nature trails, shopping center, manicured lawns, near offices, cool restaurants etc all the works - 1st world living.
I think if Tatu City, Garden City or Two Rivers or any other finally pulls it off it will be pretty obvious that it's a better alternative than buying a plot which is built without any macro considerations about quality of life etc.
I have a friend with a nice home in Runda who can't even go out at night because the journey back home is so far and in the middle of nowhere. So every time he has to go out he sleeps away from home. Shoddy planning, shoddy life.
I'll be happy living in a nice apartment with a common pool, nature trail, nature park, movie theatre near, restaurants, offices and hospital nearby, java nearby etc than living in a mansion in the middle of nowhere.
african coloner
#12 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:24:46 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
The problem is that now people are just buying a big parcel of land, subdividing it into 1/8ths and selling off with no consideration for roads, amenities etc. The last thing I'm going to do is live in such a set up. I want to live in a nicely planned municipality with good roads, nature trails, shopping center, manicured lawns, near offices, cool restaurants etc all the works - 1st world living.
I think if Tatu City, Garden City or Two Rivers or any other finally pulls it off it will be pretty obvious that it's a better alternative than buying a plot which is built without any macro considerations about quality of life etc.
I have a friend with a nice home in Runda who can't even go out at night because the journey back home is so far and in the middle of nowhere. So every time he has to go out he sleeps away from home. Shoddy planning, shoddy life.
I'll be happy living in a nice apartment with a common pool, nature trail, nature park, movie theatre near, restaurants, offices and hospital nearby, java nearby etc than living in a mansion in the middle of nowhere.

Very true
african coloner
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 19, 2013 3:07:27 PM
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african coloner wrote:
What Happened to the law of ten percent being left in all subdivisions to social ammenities like schools? It very weard that there are no schools in Kiambu road yet all that land has been subdivided. A growing town like Ruaka has no health centre, police station or any public school. Roads are very narrow just like foot paths and yet the council are collecting taxes but cannot implement simple thing like this.


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