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Kengen success
obiero
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:36:00 PM
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The faith in this company is evident. All the people who lent 25B plus cannot be wrong. Im watching the stock keenly for the medium term. U?

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Viny
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:42:00 PM
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You should buy when no body is noticing certain stocks,for eg - Kengen .

Its a star stock since its a blue chip stock & also since it has a market share of 80% .

Kengen bond success is one of the many success stories ,there are plenty in line up in days to come . just imagine the new capital expansion which will add to revenues,the carbon credits,crosslisting of shares etc etc etc etc .

Kengen has always been a great company & it will be . There is no need to speculate on this stock . Just buy & go to sleep,the rest is a story of its own .

Good Investing


Vinny
Sylo
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:07:00 PM
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The real winners who will have the lion's share are the stockholders,they will certainly make over 50% return unlike the bond holders who have a paltry guaranteed 12%.
obiero
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:50:00 PM
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Gordon. That refers to guys like you and me!
@ Viny. Ua post is insightful. Im mopping up the kengen stocks on a big individual level..

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ecstacy
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2009 3:57:00 PM
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' a market share of 80% ' lol! what has it been doing with it???
$Billz
#6 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2009 11:24:00 AM
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Are you guys serious!!?

Have any of you taken a look at their projected cash flows??

The stock is not paying dividends for the next 6 years.

The only reason it received so much attention was the tax free coupon,and the 70% government ownership


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Mainat
#7 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2009 12:21:00 PM
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KenGen shareholders,just a quick question. Do you realise that finance costs will go up by Ksh3.1bn every year?


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pauloti
#8 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2009 12:46:00 PM
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my exact question to all those saying dividend payout will be good....think again! u have all seen the cashflows.....the bulk of kengens profits will go to repaying the bonds and other financiers together with interest. so what dividend will remain for them to pay out to their shareholders. in the short run i can see prices will dip because of this. so tread warily on this share. for those who invested in the bond in large amounts,you will get a better return then the small shareholders.
TruthOpiner
#9 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2009 3:33:00 PM
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The only winners from this bond will be the brokers who have already collected their fee's and transcentury,which will eat most of the public's money.

Njoroge will build at most one plant and maybe spend a few million,but the rest will be pocketed and the electricity grid will not expand. Besides,since he doesn't know if he'll be at kengen in 2012,this is their last chance to pile up.

You'd have to be an utter fool to invest in the NSE,3yrs before 2012.






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solloh
#10 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 6:55:00 PM
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kengen is going to have to generate Kshs.35billion + in free cashflows to pay back this bond . Any shareholder expecting meaningful dividends over the next decade is dreaming. The only good thing is that kengen as a quasi parastatal is too big to fail so it won't default on its debt. I think this company should be broken up into hydro,geothermal and thermal units so as to reduce the risk of the whole company failing.
Currently with a book value of around 30 it is cheap but how someone would buy this stock is beyond me. Imagine what KCB,Equity,Mumias or even Access Kenya would do with 25 billion shillings!

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