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Sh1.2trn railway starts on Thursday
ZZE123
#11 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:11:29 AM
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freiks wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
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will take a passenger train four hours to travel between Nairobi and Mombasa

is that not toooo slow?

High speed is a high of 120kph bro on kenyan standards, but remember we need to see those animals as we pass the national parks

120KPH is too slow. I have been in a train doing 310KPH
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#12 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:14:15 AM
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Magigi wrote:
Wheher for personal gratification or aggradisement, I think it is a very good thing!

“The project will define my legacy as President of Kenya and it is my personal desire that the implementation is done to the highest standard,” he said.


Infact he said "I will personally foresee its implementation"
Magigi
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:22:08 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
freiks wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Quote:
will take a passenger train four hours to travel between Nairobi and Mombasa

is that not toooo slow?

High speed is a high of 120kph bro on kenyan standards, but remember we need to see those animals as we pass the national parks

120KPH is too slow. I have been in a train doing 310KPH

...Were there cows along the route it went through?
simonkabz
#14 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:31:14 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
freiks wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Quote:
will take a passenger train four hours to travel between Nairobi and Mombasa

is that not toooo slow?

High speed is a high of 120kph bro on kenyan standards, but remember we need to see those animals as we pass the national parks

120KPH is too slow. I have been in a train doing 310KPH

Not an ordinary train
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Shotgun
#15 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:49:40 AM
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Shotgun
#16 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 11:58:25 AM
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Top 10 Fastest Trains

Personally I think the economic gain will be in the efficiencies that will be created in moving containers from Mombasa to Kigali. Reducing that time by 77% will have quite an impact.

Passenger movement will be the added advantage. Hope Modern Coast and Coast Air are ready for a strategic realignment because 2017 we will have options:

Train - 4 Hours - Ksh. 800
FastJet - 45mins - Approx. Ksh. 3K
Coast Air - 7.5 Hours - Ksh. 1800
Robinhood
#17 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:02:47 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
freiks wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Quote:
will take a passenger train four hours to travel between Nairobi and Mombasa

is that not toooo slow?

High speed is a high of 120kph bro on kenyan standards, but remember we need to see those animals as we pass the national parks

120KPH is too slow. I have been in a train doing 310KPH

Not an ordinary train


It is not if you compare to current speeds of circa 20KPH
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kingfisher
#18 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:28:20 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
freiks wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Eti the railway will cost us Ksh 510m per km (or 510,000 per metre) while the world standard is 170m per km. In other words we are paying 3x the usual cost. Let the gravy train start........

rink nation.

From the same nation, they have compared what other nations will be spending i.e Uganda and Ethiopia and Kenya is the cheapest ama niko na gugus


Jaindi Kisero's article

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But according to the government, the first phase of the new line will cost $2.9 million per kilometre.

The plan is to award the project to the state-owned China Roads and Bridges Corporation, who will also supply a total of 56 locomotives.

Ethiopia, which is currently building a railway line between Sabeta and Mieso in the Northern part of the country, is building it’s line at $3.8 million a kilometre.

In Uganda, Gauff Consultants of Germany, who have been retained as consultants for the Malaba-Kampala section of the Standard Gauge Railway, have estimated the cost at $9.3 million per kilometre.


I think we need some facts here. To do this lets assume the world standard of KES170m per km. Now what materials and labor make up this 170m per km? where are rail engineers in the house?

Some insight on the link below

http://www.railway-technical.com/finance.shtml
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ZZE123
#19 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:37:06 PM
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Magigi wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
freiks wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Quote:
will take a passenger train four hours to travel between Nairobi and Mombasa

is that not toooo slow?

High speed is a high of 120kph bro on kenyan standards, but remember we need to see those animals as we pass the national parks

120KPH is too slow. I have been in a train doing 310KPH

...Were there cows along the route it went through?

smile smile smile
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#20 Posted : Thursday, November 28, 2013 12:50:55 PM
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kingfisher wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
freiks wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Eti the railway will cost us Ksh 510m per km (or 510,000 per metre) while the world standard is 170m per km. In other words we are paying 3x the usual cost. Let the gravy train start........

rink nation.

From the same nation, they have compared what other nations will be spending i.e Uganda and Ethiopia and Kenya is the cheapest ama niko na gugus


Jaindi Kisero's article

Quote:
But according to the government, the first phase of the new line will cost $2.9 million per kilometre.

The plan is to award the project to the state-owned China Roads and Bridges Corporation, who will also supply a total of 56 locomotives.

Ethiopia, which is currently building a railway line between Sabeta and Mieso in the Northern part of the country, is building it’s line at $3.8 million a kilometre.

In Uganda, Gauff Consultants of Germany, who have been retained as consultants for the Malaba-Kampala section of the Standard Gauge Railway, have estimated the cost at $9.3 million per kilometre.


I think we need some facts here. To do this lets assume the world standard of KES170m per km. Now what materials and labor make up this 170m per km? where are rail engineers in the house?

Some insight on the link below

http://www.railway-technical.com/finance.shtml


It is the same with railways. A single track freight
line with a few locomotives and simple signalling,
running across a flat, geologically sound, sparsely
populated landscape in a developing country might
be built for as little as US$ 2 million per kilometre
including electrical and mechanical equipment. A
double track underground metro line in a densely
populated city with difficult geological conditions,
requiring anti-earthquake construction techniques,
electric traction, immunity from typhoons and high
humidity, high technology specifications and high
passenger capacity trains could cost US$ 200 million
a kilometre. One of the most expensive railways
ever built was the Jubilee Line extension in London.
This cost US$ 330 million a kilometre because of
difficult civil engineering, its large and finely built
stations and its additional safety equipment and its
financing costs. You pays your money and you
takes your choice.
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