[quote=murchr]Who is "Prosecution Intermediary"? http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc1662752.pdf[/quote]

By the way was this deliberated on?

Remember his debate at Brookhouse, he explicitly indicated full cooperation with the courts. With a week case, he'll embarass the ICC Kangaroo court and come back to lead us....ama? Then once he is a free man, he will set up a tribunal to look for the PEV mercenaries and lock them in...ama he doesn't want justice for the PEV victims?

Hyena syndrome..

The ICC member nations will today determine whether Kenya goes pariah or not..fate based on the United Kingdom's behind the scene moves..they pull this stunt, we ask them to leave Laikipia first thing..

i think most of the people on this forum know that that arm is not dislodging anytime soon.

Kenya doesn't benefit from having a president seated at the Hague for 3 weeks.

In fact, Kenya doesn't benefit from having a president at the Hague even on skype.

Make matters worse, Kenya doesn't benefit if our president is considered an Al-bashir look alike.

The choice was made and the results aren't pleasant. However pan-africanist or as some are saying westernised Kenyans are, the consequences aren't something that we are going to run away from.

It's like leaving your house to go to Mombasa then making a wrong turn to go to Kisumu. On getting to Naivasha, you start arguing with your wife on who was wrong, who caused the problem, why didn't you tell me, you're a hyena waiting for my arm to fall etc.

Forgetting that someone made a choice. Another choice has to be made and pronto before gas kwishas. You now have to decide to go to Kisumu or turn around and head back to Mombasa.

Question then becomes, who's going to make that decision, the driver or the passenger.

Tafakari hayo.

How's that for an answer Masukuma? Answered all your 3 questions.

you have answered the question in the part marked red above the rest its all your venting and answering questions you have set for yourself.
unfortunately, there is no choice that can be made now!! you president (not the other one that "dear in your heart" like i heard someone say the other day) will from now hence forth disappear for 3 weeks or maybe 4 to go sit in that room and bangaiza the whole day. for those who keep on saying... Oh! Oh!

Kwani you bought that? I actually think you didn't coz you still voted for the other man/woman. The people that bought that are awfully quiet in this forum on this matter. do you believe it's "a personal challenge"? if you do - why do you have issues with Ole lenku's story on nakumatt 'mattresses' that had been stocked at the westgate?

you have answered the question in the part marked red above the rest its all your venting and answering questions you have set for yourself.
unfortunately, there is no choice that can be made now!! you president (not the other one that "dear in your heart" like i heard someone say the other day) will from now hence forth disappear for 3 weeks or maybe 4 to go sit in that room and bangaiza the whole day. for those who keep on saying... Oh! Oh!
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Glad we agree that this whole scenario doesn't benefit the country.

Now masukuma answer my question

Who's fault is that. Therein lies the kunguni.

Glad we agree that this whole scenario doesn't benefit the country.

Now masukuma answer my question

Who's fault is that. Therein lies the kunguni.
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it depends on who you ask... asking me. its the parliamenterians who wanted to fix each other when they were shouting 'lets not be vague lets to go the hague', its also the TNA brigade that pressured Uhuru to kick away messi calling the rest of the sane voices 'matimoni'. once he was elected it was the international community for letting this thing 'go too' far. its something that even they are uncomfortable with (reading between the lines of all those abstentions). Finally, its the fault of all those who voted for Johnny Mtembezi and Billy Wailer (no doubt good guys who can perform when their focus is on the job at hand). they really don't have the time to sort us out with our issues and at the same time sort out their issues. our issues are many!!! just this year alone we have had drama to last 3 moi presidential terms (ama back then ignorance was bliss?). But after apportioning blame we need to ask ourselves - WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US? after finger pointing to our hearts content - WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE US? hmm?

The guy gives up too easily he wanted to quit politics altogether when the charges against him were confirmed only the tribal brigade made him man up. The tribal brigade wanted a poster boy and he was the perfect guy for the time.

"[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really." James Watson DNA 'Discoverer'1962 Nobel Prize in Physiology/Medicine quoted on TIME Magazine in 2007....i sometimes wonder because....

As an Independent Country, we are under NO OBLIGATION to go, because the Rome Statute, was created via the Atlantic Charter of 1941 signed between Franklin D Roosevelt and Wintson Churhill and it's mandate, and all UN mandates fall within the following principles:-.

The Atlantic Charter acted as clarification that America was supporting Britain in the war. Both America and Britain wanted to present their unity, regarding their mutual principles and hopes for the post-war world and the policies they agreed to follow once the Nazis had been defeated.[7] A fundamental aim was to focus on the peace that would follow, and not specific American involvement and war strategy, although American involvement appeared increasingly likely.[8]

The eight principal points of the Charter were:

no territorial gains were to be sought by the United States or the United Kingdom;
territorial adjustments must be in accord with the wishes of the peoples concerned;
all people had a right to self-determination;
trade barriers were to be lowered;
there was to be global economic cooperation and advancement of social welfare;
the participants would work for a world free of want and fear;
the participants would work for freedom of the seas;
there was to be disarmament of aggressor nations, and a post-war common disarmament.

Because of the Principle of the Right to Self Determination, highlighted above, Which Kenyans exercised peacefully in a FREE and FAIR election of 51% (THE ICC CASE AUTOMATICALLY TERMINATED HERE and OBAMA should have been the first one to congratulate UK), we are a SELF DETERMINED independent Nation whose President CANNOT be ordered around under the Mercy of clerks and police, and watchmen, plugs, searched in cells, YET he is the leader of a PEACEFUL nation....yet JAMES WATSON said that AFRICANS are THICK scientifically, and PROOF is some KENYANS wanted their PRESIDENT whom now 'we all' elected to go to JAIL, based on a bad or bad decision by only two human JUDGES (who often make mistakes). This is why USA and BRITAIN could only fumble at the VOTE...Because in PRINCIPAL they know they are wrong to fight democracy and sovereignty for whatever imagined gains that "can be imagined", by violence or FORCE, just as HITLER tried, it NEVER works...that was the lesson from a long terrible war....INDEPENDENCE of PEACEFUL nations....most people don't know that this is the document that GUARANTEED Africas independence...Because it is widely Known...Roosevelt demanded it as A CONDITION..so as long as there is PEACE, Uhuru is most needed HERE...Otherwise ICC should have given him a clearance certificate because OUR COURTS cleared him.....THINK about IT.