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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Pedes wrote:tycho wrote:'Foreign policy' is 'personal interest' in a 'national mask'. The mask hides the real issues that are selfish and sometimes ill informed. Grappling with the mask is misleading.
Then Kenya's FP may be too old fashioned even in approaching the Hague cases. There's a new world order emerging, but Kenya is sticking to the old.
Maybe in the new world Kenya won't even exist.
Very true. But Developed countries mask their personal interests in form of corporations. When these corporations are threatened then issues get nasty, think Zimbabwe. Mugambe was okay with the anti west talk, but when he moved on the farms.... I agree that the markets and markets control is where the real politics is, because the political space is that of meeting 'needs', and needs are met in the markets. That is, a nation's domestic and foreign policies must always adhere to the markets, and ensuring that the citizen, the private citizen, is most powerful and free to do what he/she wants. Let me digress and say that the problem of this world, is that not enough people aspire to ultimate power in the body politic, and consequently, even the gap between the rich and poor keeps on increasing. Blaming this problem on anyone is a fatal mistake. Man has to have power. And power is a matter of forces. 'Nice guys finish last'. Back to our foreign policy. Where is our game, among diplomats? What's happening to the private citizen in terms of power? Kenya is playing this game all wrong. Why should I be happy when I see 'my brother' running around to seek help from the neighbors while I'm chained on the bed? Isn't something entirely wrong? Foreign policy is best played at home. And at home, the last thing happening is creative dialogue. Even to the county level. The other day I was informed that my license fee had risen by 'Kes 3000.00'. And my market, how much was increasing in disposable income? Taxes are increasing, costs are rising; but what about incomes? And mark you, we have everything in place except the right political ideas. And why is this? Why are we not being engaged in any true dialogue amongst ourselves? Look at how we are approaching nyumba kumi...
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tycho wrote:Pedes wrote:tycho wrote:'Foreign policy' is 'personal interest' in a 'national mask'. The mask hides the real issues that are selfish and sometimes ill informed. Grappling with the mask is misleading.
Then Kenya's FP may be too old fashioned even in approaching the Hague cases. There's a new world order emerging, but Kenya is sticking to the old.
Maybe in the new world Kenya won't even exist.
Very true. But Developed countries mask their personal interests in form of corporations. When these corporations are threatened then issues get nasty, think Zimbabwe. Mugambe was okay with the anti west talk, but when he moved on the farms.... I agree that the markets and markets control is where the real politics is, because the political space is that of meeting 'needs', and needs are met in the markets. That is, a nation's domestic and foreign policies must always adhere to the markets, and ensuring that the citizen, the private citizen, is most powerful and free to do what he/she wants. Let me digress and say that the problem of this world, is that not enough people aspire to ultimate power in the body politic, and consequently, even the gap between the rich and poor keeps on increasing. Blaming this problem on anyone is a fatal mistake. Man has to have power. And power is a matter of forces. 'Nice guys finish last'. Back to our foreign policy. Where is our game, among diplomats? What's happening to the private citizen in terms of power? Kenya is playing this game all wrong. Why should I be happy when I see 'my brother' running around to seek help from the neighbors while I'm chained on the bed? Isn't something entirely wrong? Foreign policy is best played at home. And at home, the last thing happening is creative dialogue. Even to the county level. The other day I was informed that my license fee had risen by 'Kes 3000.00'. And my market, how much was increasing in disposable income? Taxes are increasing, costs are rising; but what about incomes? And mark you, we have everything in place except the right political ideas. And why is this? Why are we not being engaged in any true dialogue amongst ourselves? Look at how we are approaching nyumba kumi... Foreign policy is not a science. Let’s see how things pan out. ION, http://www.the-star.co.k...-may-not-have-been-vain
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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limanika wrote:tycho wrote:Pedes wrote:tycho wrote:'Foreign policy' is 'personal interest' in a 'national mask'. The mask hides the real issues that are selfish and sometimes ill informed. Grappling with the mask is misleading.
Then Kenya's FP may be too old fashioned even in approaching the Hague cases. There's a new world order emerging, but Kenya is sticking to the old.
Maybe in the new world Kenya won't even exist.
Very true. But Developed countries mask their personal interests in form of corporations. When these corporations are threatened then issues get nasty, think Zimbabwe. Mugambe was okay with the anti west talk, but when he moved on the farms.... I agree that the markets and markets control is where the real politics is, because the political space is that of meeting 'needs', and needs are met in the markets. That is, a nation's domestic and foreign policies must always adhere to the markets, and ensuring that the citizen, the private citizen, is most powerful and free to do what he/she wants. Let me digress and say that the problem of this world, is that not enough people aspire to ultimate power in the body politic, and consequently, even the gap between the rich and poor keeps on increasing. Blaming this problem on anyone is a fatal mistake. Man has to have power. And power is a matter of forces. 'Nice guys finish last'. Back to our foreign policy. Where is our game, among diplomats? What's happening to the private citizen in terms of power? Kenya is playing this game all wrong. Why should I be happy when I see 'my brother' running around to seek help from the neighbors while I'm chained on the bed? Isn't something entirely wrong? Foreign policy is best played at home. And at home, the last thing happening is creative dialogue. Even to the county level. The other day I was informed that my license fee had risen by 'Kes 3000.00'. And my market, how much was increasing in disposable income? Taxes are increasing, costs are rising; but what about incomes? And mark you, we have everything in place except the right political ideas. And why is this? Why are we not being engaged in any true dialogue amongst ourselves? Look at how we are approaching nyumba kumi... Foreign policy is not a science. Let’s see how things pan out. ION, http://www.the-star.co.k...-may-not-have-been-vain
Whatever it may be, waiting to see what happens, is an act of self betrayal. To have power is to be indifferent to what happens from without and to care for what happens within.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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kwanza Palestinian embassy should be given land hapo UN avenue ama next to Rahimtulla towers  I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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digitek1 wrote:kwanza Palestinian embassy should be given land hapo UN avenue ama next to Rahimtulla towers  there are threads  and there is this thread  very sober discourse am finding here ♡♥ ION Israelis seek what? waambiwe East or West hii samaki tunataka kula pande zote ☆♡♥★♡♡ "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2013 Posts: 659
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Siringi wrote:digitek1 wrote:kwanza Palestinian embassy should be given land hapo UN avenue ama next to Rahimtulla towers  there are threads  and there is this thread  very sober discourse am finding here ♡♥ ION Israelis seek what? waambiwe East or West hii samaki tunataka kula pande zote ☆♡♥★♡♡ The Dynamic duos dearth in Foreign Policy is very visible. The way we have handled the ICC, Tanzania & the West hasn't been diplomatic. I also readthat South Sudan were rethinking about LAPSSET. I hope that their considerations don't get actualised cause our policy makers haven't thought of ways to lure them back. If you stay ready, no need to get ready.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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Siringi wrote:digitek1 wrote:kwanza Palestinian embassy should be given land hapo UN avenue ama next to Rahimtulla towers  there are threads  and there is this thread  very sober discourse am finding here ♡♥ ION Israelis seek what? waambiwe East or West hii samaki tunataka kula pande zote ☆♡♥★♡♡ Ama Ngong road 2nd or 3rd Avenue
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http://www.standardmedia...viv-no-to-riyadh-beijingJust as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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