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Where is the justice
BIziblaza
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:10:00 PM
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Is it fair that some will get arrested immediately yet one who has been sodomizing 'young adults' for years is still on the loose?

Is it fair that someone who is arrested for stealing maize to feed on is given a longer sentence than one who murdered someone









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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:57:00 PM
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Is it fair to forgive and forget?

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:03:00 PM
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The law is an ass,and you all know that. In the court proceedings the presentation of evidence matters more than the magnitude of the crime.

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:11:00 PM
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is it fair for someone to be deemed guilty simply because a group of journalists say so?

Time and chance happen to all.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:47:00 PM
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In all criminal cases,its not what one wants,hears,reads,sees or how much evidence one has,but rather its what one is capable of proving that is important.

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B.Timer
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:59:00 PM
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What you posted is itself not fair at all.
What evidence have you that anybody sodomised anybody else.
Is it not unfair of you to post damaging details based on hearsy in the internet.
Be fair to start with.

B.timer
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mtaalam
#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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By now you should all know that in Kenya the law does not apply equally.
'Justice' is a preserve for the rich only.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:22:00 PM
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@B.Timer,

Dude could have been the victim.What more evidence do you want?......-:)


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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:26:00 PM
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I like your thinking. If what the people expect the catholic church to act based on the info with the media they are wrong. If that was to happen each time,we couldn't be having a cabinet.

A likely impossibility is always preferable to an unconvincing posibility.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
B.Timer
#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:34:00 PM
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@Njung'e

Hiyo ni kali,- I say.
Dude should have wrestled the septugenarian to the ground.

B.timer
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Kaigangio
#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2009 4:22:00 PM
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where is justice.... if an innocent person is convicted on a crime that he/she did not commit????

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:20:00 AM
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BIziblaza
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:30:00 AM
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@B.Timer
What fairness are you talking about?You don't know the background I have of those people and my information is not in itself based on hearsay alone. Mark you am a scientist by proffesion and so I know how to do my research and do it well.
Okay then would you say that am not also fair to say that a criminal charged with man-slaughter was given 8 months imprisonment while some people still rot in jail for stuff like stealing maize?How fair is this???Or how fair do you expect me to be by not speaking out?

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:30:00 AM
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@BIziblaza

Don't forget that the guy who was recently found guilty of man slaughter and given 8 months had served about 3 years during trial

If you have evidence of criminal activity,give it to the authorities and follow-up to find out how the matter is handled [it is your duty as a responsible citizen]

Cases in High Courts are dispensed with efficiently. Cases in lower courts take for ever. The reason is that while judges work hard [report to Court before 8am and leaving after 7pm] magistrates are lazy [reporting to court at 11am and leaving at 3pm].

The people languishing in remand for theft of maize are all having cases before magistrates...you see,while murder cases go straight to the High Court,theft and other misdemeanours start at the lower courts.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:37:00 AM
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@ mukiha,

so..where is justice then,in high court or lower courts???


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Fundaah
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:42:00 AM
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Mukiha,

while do judges work harder than magistrates? Pay diference ? Low Morale?


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#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:46:00 AM
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@Biziblaza... Why dont u post here the background infor u say u av so that we can judge it objectively?

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:51:00 AM
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@Biziblaza,i think you should go slow on B.timer,the law is very simple provide enough evidence to sustain a conviction and you will have your man locked up. Failure to do that,then let the on going process take its course.

And why are you so emotional with this particular case anyway?


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sheri
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:47:00 AM
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@BIziblaza

I don't know what kind of evidence you have but i think K*N did a very shod job concerning the case you are reffering to.

1. The pictures they were showing had been manipulated using photoshop here are the reasons.

the dude they were showing was very young compared to the accused person

the kablack spot at the beard of the accused is the microphone which they didn't completely be erased

The accused is being shown as having tatoos on both arms. which belong to the dude which photo was used.

The dude has a very masculine body which is not matching with the upper body of the accused

I don't want to be the devils advocate but our media is full of shody journalists.

N/b I have those photos and for sure they look manipulated.




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BIziblaza
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:33:00 PM
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am concerned because am scared for what the society has become.Not just that case...how about those who are abusing little boys and girls...am just sooo scared and we don't know how safe our children are

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