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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
hisah
#421 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:03:15 PM
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Tomorrow we get to see the H1 nuts and bolts. Volume is picking up as the price runs into the resistance forest (12.50 - 14 level)...

The correction phase usually springs on slightly bad news and vaults on any slight good news.

But I never expected the price to smash into the resistance forest in a flash...

#trading laggards...
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obiero
#422 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:33:17 PM
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hisah wrote:
Tomorrow we get to see the H1 nuts and bolts. Volume is picking up as the price runs into the resistance forest (12.50 - 14 level)...

The correction phase usually springs on slightly bad news and vaults on any slight good news.

But I never expected the price to smash into the resistance forest in a flash...

#trading laggards...

The truth remains even if KQ was to report a loss of 1B, it will be fairly good news! I saw this happen to Safaricom when Bob Collymore announced his second set of full year financials after reportin lacklustre results in his maiden appearance..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#423 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:36:34 PM
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anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Pesa Nane
#424 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:58:37 AM
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obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn

even saw a 14.70 trade
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Impunity
#425 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:01:55 PM
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obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


Let those who ears to hear!
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obiero
#426 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:46:49 PM
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Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


Let those who ears to hear!
smile

some commentatators refer to westgate as a major factor in deciding whether the runrate in profit shall hold.. i have no words for those people

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#427 Posted : Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:08:16 PM
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''Next time we stand before you, we shall offer excellent results. We have turned the corner..''
www.timesofoman.com/News/Article-25627.aspx

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
murchr
#428 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:30:02 AM
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Quote:
PRESS RELEASE
Kenya Airways expands cooperation with KLM
AMSTELVEEN/ NAIROBI NOVEMBER 13, 2013


Kenya Airways has expanded its cooperation with KLM Royal Dutch Airlines within East Africa, following the signing of a far reaching joint venture agreement.

The expanded joint venture will be a significant boost to the existing benefit-sharing model between the two carriers. This far reaching cooperation for both passenger and cargo business will allow KLM and Kenya Airways to jointly implement further commercial synergies, optimize networks and schedules to better jointly serve these markets and further enhance customer experience and travel options.

The expanded cooperation will be effective from January 1, 2014, and the two carriers will add four new routes to the current arrangement, thus increasing the total KLM – Kenya Airways joint venture to a total of six routes.


http://www.kenya-airways...with%20KLM%20updated.pdf
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#429 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:46:20 PM
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obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


Let those who ears to hear!
smile

some commentatators refer to westgate as a major factor in deciding whether the runrate in profit shall hold.. i have no words for those people

The draw back in price as promised has set in. Im still in the plane though, patiently waiting..

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Kausha
#430 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 5:46:12 AM
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But you know westg = travel advisories = cancellations and lower traffic from key markets including west africa I gather. 3rd Quarter operating numbers will validate or invalidate these views. Truth though is KQ is under tremendous competition for asia, europe, west, south and central african routes. Only a diehard addict would deny this.
obiero
#431 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 7:28:29 PM
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Kausha wrote:
But you know westg = travel advisories = cancellations and lower traffic from key markets including west africa I gather. 3rd Quarter operating numbers will validate or invalidate these views. Truth though is KQ is under tremendous competition for asia, europe, west, south and central african routes. Only a diehard addict would deny this.

these advisories impact is neither here nor there.. but I agree on the competition aspect though KQ is doin somethin by modernising its fleet hence gainin efficiency. Kenya is soo central to business/leisure in Africa that no travel advisories wld significantly stop people from comin here

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#432 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 11:44:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
Kausha wrote:
But you know westg = travel advisories = cancellations and lower traffic from key markets including west africa I gather. 3rd Quarter operating numbers will validate or invalidate these views. Truth though is KQ is under tremendous competition for asia, europe, west, south and central african routes. Only a diehard addict would deny this.

these advisories impact is neither here nor there.. but I agree on the competition aspect though KQ is doin somethin by modernising its fleet hence gainin efficiency. Kenya is soo central to business/leisure in Africa that no travel advisories wld significantly stop people from comin here

Travel Advisories have an effect but not for seasoned travellers. Bottomline: They do affect tourism but not as bad as the 'noise' make it sound.

For EAST AFRICAN business, Kenya [Nairobi] is central but for the rest of the African destinations, it doesn't matter. One can fly to Addis (ET) or Dubai (EK) and make 90% of the connections that KQ/Nairobi offers. And both Addis & Dubai have more connections than Nairobi as a hub.

Leisure travel - The options are increasing vs Kenya including Tanzania, which has a larger circuit, Zambia, South Africa (better developed) and Botswana. South Africa is well covered by SAA.

I wish KQ all the best but it has to expand carefully [new destinations should be tried out to see if they work] but the fleet expansion has to be done slowly coz it is all financed with debt.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
murchr
#433 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:33:23 AM
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Funny that the nay sayers were expecting a loss and are still expecting another loss. If KQ relied on tourism then they would be under like Air Tanzania. Their growing business is from the China route. More and more Africans are heading to shop in the east, thats why KQ is getting small planes to operate in Africa to feed the larger planes heading elsewhere in china and India.

Most tourists fly their national carriers and KTB hasn't done a good job in selling Kenya as a product to the rest of Africa so forget about tourists and think business
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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obiero
#434 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:24:40 AM
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''Next time we stand before you, we shall offer excellent results. We have turned the corner..''
www.timesofoman.com/News/Article-25627.aspx

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#435 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:52:08 AM
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What does this mean? @horton

KQ expands flights with KLM http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/12mpwr9z/-/index.html

I understanding sharing flights/sales with KLM to/from Nairobi-Paris-France but why would KLM give up direct sales/flights to Entebbe, etc? Does this mean KQ will fly NBO-EBB-AMS as opposed to EBB-NBO-AMS?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Magnate
#436 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:44:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


@obiero ,you predicted it right "the price draw back"
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
obiero
#437 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:58:57 PM
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Magnate wrote:
obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


@obiero ,you predicted it right "the price draw back"

i know a bit about the stock market in east africa. been actively engaged in the markets since 2006

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#438 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:01:09 PM
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obiero wrote:
Magnate wrote:
obiero wrote:
anyone interested in sellin at 14 should do so tomorrow.. the price is likely to draw back for atleast two weeks before regainin ground. eventually, upon nearing release of full year results, plus chance of modest dividend, the price will crack past 20 with ease. watch and learn


@obiero ,you predicted it right "the price draw back"

i know a bit about the stock market in east africa. been actively engaged in the markets since 2006

@magnate danke schon. merci beacoup. ber ahinya

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Horton
#439 Posted : Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:25:08 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
What does this mean? @horton

KQ expands flights with KLM http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/12mpwr9z/-/index.html

I understanding sharing flights/sales with KLM to/from Nairobi-Paris-France but why would KLM give up direct sales/flights to Entebbe, etc? Does this mean KQ will fly NBO-EBB-AMS as opposed to EBB-NBO-AMS?



basically a code share....flights maybe operated by KLM but KQ gets a cut in it and vice versa. Slightly more exclusive than the partner airlines, in that KQ routes are also advertised as if operated by KLM and vice versa.......similar to the Code share we have with Etihad. only difference is that it casts a wider net i.e. BJM/JRO n KGL for KQ and LHR/CDG for KLM
mwekez@ji
#440 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 8:59:46 AM
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Domestic air travellers now face steeper charges. >>> By 300 bob only! Why is this in the headlines!! http://www.businessdailyafrica..../-/13ua71bz/-/index.html
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