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Is Machakos City another real estate venture like Konza City?
jaggernaut
#31 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:04:51 PM
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limanika
#32 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:17:59 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:

I agree with this opinion. The problem with our governors is that they are not able to think outside the box. Mutua spent much of his youthful time in Dubai and USA and got mesmerised with big cities, now he thinks he can plant Dubai in Machakos pap. Building a city is like climbing a tree, you always start from the bottom never from the top.
It would have been better strategy to look for water first – for domestic use first then irrigation.
murchr
#33 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:18:02 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
@murchr..yes. Zoning helps to enable infrastructure growth. Zoning has been in place/active in Kenya since 1963. All parts of the country are either zoned as agricultural, commercial, residential, industrial or educational. The 99 year lease document gives the councils the power to reclaim undeveloped land but its rarely enforced. The new land commission should ensure this is enforced through idle land taxation.

Zoning is dynamic. eg most of Kitengela, Kiambu, Ruiru, Syokimau etc is zoned as agricultural so people intending to construct houses have to aply for the zoning to be changed into residential. This application can be thru precedent or through planning.
Physical planners write a report explainign why the zone needs to be changed eg from agric to residential, or residential to industrial etc then the council planner evaluates and either agrees or declines.



Zoning ya kenya is very old sch esp when changing land use...very poorly managed. Infact a well zoned out neighborhood should have some uniformity to preserve the value of property
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murchr
#34 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:25:45 PM
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And Kenyans Keep watching as Dr Alfred Mutua teaches you some very important lessons. When he said he's going to host CECAFA 90% of Kenyans rubbished the idea, he set aside around 5M to rehabilitate the stadium ( note close to the same amount Siaya is hoping to spend in the reelection bash of the gov) many asked him how grass would grow there.....go have a look at his facebook page. If your still doubting him think again.
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limanika
#35 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:52:48 PM
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murchr wrote:
And Kenyans Keep watching as Dr Alfred Mutua teaches you some very important lessons. When he said he's going to host CECAFA 90% of Kenyans rubbished the idea, he set aside around 5M to rehabilitate the stadium ( note close to the same amount Siaya is hoping to spend in the reelection bash of the gov) many asked him how grass would grow there.....go have a look at his facebook page. If your still doubting him think again.

I saw tens of skyscrapers in Mutua’s dream city – more than Nairobi CBD - are there people in them and what business are they transacting?
InnovateGuy
#36 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:59:22 PM
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I would rather give the governor the space he needs than criticize his idea with empty rhetoric. When a certain guy said that he'll build a ship with steel, many people thought he was a fool. Well, steel sinks in water and the people were entitled to their opinions anyway. When the Wright brothers said they'll build a plane to go through air, many thought it was another damn idea. Well, it had not been done before and no one would have thought it would be possible. Give the governor his chance.
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murchr
#37 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:02:27 PM
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limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
And Kenyans Keep watching as Dr Alfred Mutua teaches you some very important lessons. When he said he's going to host CECAFA 90% of Kenyans rubbished the idea, he set aside around 5M to rehabilitate the stadium ( note close to the same amount Siaya is hoping to spend in the reelection bash of the gov) many asked him how grass would grow there.....go have a look at his facebook page. If your still doubting him think again.

I saw tens of skyscrapers in Mutua’s dream city – more than Nairobi CBD - are there people in them and what business are they transacting?


His office is less than 16Kms to mks town knock on his door and ask him. Or wait to see like everyone else
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limanika
#38 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 4:55:01 PM
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murchr wrote:
limanika wrote:
murchr wrote:
And Kenyans Keep watching as Dr Alfred Mutua teaches you some very important lessons. When he said he's going to host CECAFA 90% of Kenyans rubbished the idea, he set aside around 5M to rehabilitate the stadium ( note close to the same amount Siaya is hoping to spend in the reelection bash of the gov) many asked him how grass would grow there.....go have a look at his facebook page. If your still doubting him think again.

I saw tens of skyscrapers in Mutua’s dream city – more than Nairobi CBD - are there people in them and what business are they transacting?


His office is less than 16Kms to mks town knock on his door and ask him. Or wait to see like everyone else

I will not visit to ask but wish him well. Am only offering constructive criticism which he is entitled to ignore
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#39 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:32:20 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:

Very interesting!Echoes my fearsthough I still hope our new cities work. How did Nigerians do Abuja? @young?

But on the other hand, isn't lack of water the main thing Machakos govt has been dealing with?
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#40 Posted : Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:38:03 PM
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