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Wendz
#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:25:00 PM
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If it will be RAO vs Uhuru/Martha/Saitoti/Ruto/Jimmi Kibs/Totalman/Sirma et al,then he has my vote.

If it is RAO vs ledama/onyonka(hope that is his name)/PK/any other fresh blood then he will need to do some more convincing as to why we havent seen much change and heard much noise since they started sharing power with his 'slumbering'(just to avoid using the word 'sleeping' lest some imaginative mind is tickled!) partner.

@Prof Ouma
what makes PK and Mutahi's region-mates tribalists? Because they are kiuks? By the way,incase you are missing something...,these days,a ' tribalist' is not a slang word for a ' kiuk' because in most your posts,they seem to be easily interchangeable.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
Prof.J.T.Ouma
#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:49:00 PM
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Wendz
You are the one generalizing kikuyu and not me.I singled out the tribalist (if there is such a word),from his region because there are also 'non-tribalist',conformists,flags blowing in the wind,as well as objective minds in his region. I therefore singled out this group as he did. There is also hardcore tribalism where i come,i will not call them luo but 'tribalist' or ethnic myopic. In his community he gave stereotypical examples of kikuyu 'ahoi' mentality 'we are safeguarding our property by voting our tribesman' :-

Mutahi Ngunyi is a Kikuyu,the title of his article was 'Why the house of Mumbi should climb down',i guess he was referring to Kikuyu's. Do you think otherwise? It was a genuine felt piece, whats wrong with a little sincerity? Kenyan communities are somewhat ethnic bound but this is a common trend worldwide where people favor the person they identify most with. Ngunyi's assertion was that the dominance of 'the house' by 'the house' was playing out negatively on 'the house' and they need to make a conscious effort to avert the negative perceptions the Kibuttz voting is playing out,simple. Hence my reference to Peter Kenneth. Wendz climb down - do you get it - Climb(upwards),Down(Downwards).

ODM
Wendz
#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:13:00 PM
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@Prof

i thought i understood the last post you had put up until you added the second paragraph and i kinda 'dont get it' anymore.... but anyhow,as long as i have gotten your clarification that you did not generalise all kikuyus as tribalists(because i dont believe i am - or,welll let me say at least i try not to be),then we are rocking.

anything else on who said what or did what is just politics and should be judged as an individual view/action and not as a community - including Mutahi Ngunyi - he is no spokes person of mine and on some occassions he has contradicted himself just like our politicians - in any case,he has a duty to help the paper he writes for sell.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
kadonye
#24 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2009 11:01:00 AM
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Joined: 5/30/2009
Posts: 1,390
GOOD

1. A generous president-He is rumored to hav a big heart hence his populariyt

2.A presi who talks about all issues-Kenyans look tired of old baks n his silence.why not give them tinga?

3.A hardworkin president-and energetic too.need i say more?

4 a guy who looks lyk he's in charge-with a solid following n good political gameplans he's bound to be.

BAD/DOUBTS

1.Impunity-just look at guys around him

2 Tribalism-Remember the comment on kiambaa tragedy?

3Nepostism

4Possible dictator


The wicked flee even when no one is pursuing...
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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