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murchr
#231 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 3:19:02 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Siringi wrote:
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Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos?


@jag.......very, Nrb CBD is deteriorating fast...now most buildings are stalls. Upperhill....the roads will not attract anymore, its over-populated. Most ppl who work in nrb live out there...kiambu, thuka, machakos.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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omhangla
#232 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 3:35:59 PM
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i think if alfie can work with kidero to build a reliable high speed train from Nrb to macha, then many companies may consider relocating to there, even investors in high residential estates may stop buying these overpriced land in nairobi and go for the free land in machakos
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poundfoolish
#233 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 3:52:01 PM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
Siringi wrote:
As seen from the other side



Will this city be economically viable? Who will be renting all that office space? Will companies be convinced to relocate from westlands, Upperhill etc to mayakos? Might this city end up being a white elephant? Also an an investor, would you put up your ksh 1B office block in westlands or mayakos?


Nairobi ni jina. At some point in time, all company HQs were in CBD. Now its upperhill and westlands. Tomorrow of tomorrow, it will be Thika, Mayakos na kwingineko. Question is, what makes Nairobi a favourite location? If Mayakos or any other city surpasses that, issue on relocation becomes when, not if.

http://www.businessdaily.../-/u3ey1hz/-/index.html

If the Machakos City is supported by such infrastructure, WHY NOT?

But will the real estate mafia support? Wont it burst the real estate bubble in the capital?


History. Machakos had been chosen by the British as a capital city until the hills made the Mzungu think twice. Then security was a major issue and they figured protecting Mayakos from an enemy onslaught would be hard courtesy of the hills...

Nairobi. The CBD started in River roadi. moved to west towards Tom Mboya before going further west of Moi Avenue.. It then shifted to Westlands and currently UpperHill which is already chocked.

However Nairobi is one chocked congested and unplanned piece of chaos that is running courtesy of maintaining our pride (im not just talking CBD here)
The forces that feed from it (real Estate Mafias) are the same ones that have held Nairobi. But with all forces in history. growth is necessary and change is inevitable. Nairobi can't hold any more. It's like a gold fish, its size is determined by the size of bowl its kept in.
For economic growth. Nairobi has to let go (devolve its strange hold on everything)only then can it also grow economically.
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Siringi
#234 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 3:55:38 PM
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omhangla wrote:
i think if alfie can work with kidero to build a reliable high speed train from Nrb to macha, then many companies may consider relocating to there, even investors in high residential estates may stop buying these overpriced land in nairobi and go for the free land in machakos


Looks like your query was answered



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wanyee
#235 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 4:03:42 PM
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With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security
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poundfoolish
#236 Posted : Monday, November 11, 2013 4:23:39 PM
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wanyee wrote:
With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security


they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate.

I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch?

I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;)
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wanyee
#237 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:05:42 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
wanyee wrote:
With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security


they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate.

I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch?

I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;)

d'oh! d'oh! tyranny of mafia
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Njung'e
#238 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:20:11 AM
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wanyee wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
wanyee wrote:
With the realization that their gravy train may be endangered.. the Mafia may strike back ..me thinks Ngavana should get the Spetsnaz as part of his security


they are already the investors there.. they know how to observe the sands of time.. their crystal balls are accurate.

I know a few already, who are investing there. How do yo think it was possible for the court to throw out the land case and the president to be there at the launch?

I am just happy its is nearer Konza. It picks up.. we shall build the Runda's and Muthaiga's at Konza and environs... ;)

d'oh! d'oh! tyranny of mafia


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Lolest!
#239 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:14:19 AM
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Konza, Tatu, now Machakos...planned cities aimed at pulling pressure from Nairobi? I sure do hope they all work but I'm sceptical! Economic activity should lead to growth of urban centres not the other way round. But maybe planned settlements defy this rule.
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wanyee
#240 Posted : Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:04:42 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Konza, Tatu, now Machakos...planned cities aimed at pulling pressure from Nairobi? I sure do hope they all work but I'm sceptical! Economic activity should lead to growth of urban centres not the other way round. But maybe planned settlements defy this rule.

I think this time around the "foondamentals" are right. A bit of optimism smile
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